Linsux and Winbloze - There is no decent operating system for the PC!

[insomnia]

quote:Originally posted by JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder:

But then, I don't have a good DVD player app.

Try Ogle:
http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/index.shtml

[WMD]

No, he's missing a good DVD player for *Windows*, not Linux.  He has Xine there.  

[hm_murdock]

yes. I have xine. it works very well. I have since found my nvidia discs and have installed NVDVD in windows

[Aloone_Jonez]

I don't care what you people say but Linux does have, some major shortcomings, these are mostly down to lack of industry support.

You just don't get it do you, no one is going to use an OS that doesn't support their hardware fully, people will always return to Windows do some tasks, even if it's just downloading their digital camera.

I bet that most Linux users here dual boot, or have a separate Windows system. I find dual booting very inconvenient. I think that it's silly to use openoffice in Linux, then boot to Windows to extract a picture from my camera, then boot back into Linux, when I can just perform the whole procedure in Windows.

[flap]

Are you sure you can't use your camera as a USB storage device?

[hm_murdock]

quote:I can just perform the whole procedure in Windows.

Then why don't you just use Windows? What are you, some kind of masochist? You obviously hate using Linux, but yet you continue to do so!

Why don't you just ditch Linux and go back to Windows full time?

OR... you could spend a little time... get yourself a new vid card, and more RAM (despite your arguments, 256MB is NOT ENOUGH)... and search for drivers for your shit.

What model digital camera do you have?

[ July 18, 2004: Message edited by: JimmyJames: GenSTEP Founder ]

[pofnlice]

Suddenly my spelling looks good!!!!

[Aloone_Jonez]

Then why don't you just use Windows?

The main reasons why I like Linux are:

• Security, you don't have to run any anti-virus software.
• It is very easy to customise, with Linux the user interface is infinitely configurable, you can even have a Windows desktop if you wish.
• Bloat, I know this is an issue with some Linux distributions, but you can recompile the kernel and remove anything you don't need, or just use compact distributions. - I have not experimented with any of this yet, it just sounds cool.
• You can choose between 100s of distributions, if one doesn't suit you, it's easy to switch to a different one. - I have not tried this either, may one day I will.
• Stability, providing you set it up correctly Linux can be very stable.

What are you, some kind of masochist?

No!

You obviously hate using Linux, but yet you continue to do so!

No!

I don't hate either Windows or Linux!

To me Windows and Linux are just operating systems, I have no feelings towards them of either love or hate, to me a computer is just a means to an end, to get my work done. You should choose an operating system that enables you to use your system most efficiently.

I prefer Linux because it has a better user interface, and it's stable and secure.

I just use Windows because it supports my printer/scanner, digital camera and 3D graphics accelerator.

Why don't you just ditch Linux and go back to Windows full time?

Maybe, I will for now, but I'm not happy with Windows, and I still will play with Linux for now.

OR... you could spend a little time... get yourself a new vid card, and more RAM (despite your arguments, 256MB is NOT ENOUGH)... and search for drivers for your shit.

256MB should more than enough if you run a operating system that isn't bloated.

I might for security reasons disconnect my current system from the Internet and buy a second-hand PC to run Linux on and connect to the net. I can't see myself doing this any time soon though.

And I might buy "a new vid card" if Linux had drivers for the other shit!

What model digital camera do you have?

Nytech, ND-5040

And yes I did do a Google Search

Are you sure you can't use your camera as a USB storage device?

Yes, in XP I can, I plug it into the USB port and it auto-mounts the digital camera as drive.

Why do you dual boot Jimmy?

Why do you use Windows, if it blows so much?

Is there anything that you actually like about Windows?

You people here seem to think that Linux is perfect and any one who finds a fault with it is wrong. Linux is far from perfect, and it does have many shortcommings, and I know that there is no such thing as a perfect OS, I just use the one that suits me the most.

The problem is that neither Windows or Linux are suitable for me!

I don't like Windows, I think that Linux is a far better operating system.

I like the Linux dream.
Lets built a stable, secure, open source operating system based on good old tried and tested UNIX.

But unfortunately the Linux dream, will have to remain a dream, and I will continue to bitch about it.

[flap]

quote:Yes, in XP I can, I plug it into the USB port and it auto-mounts the digital camera as drive.

So how do you know you can't use it? You don't need camera-specific drivers to access it as a usb storage device.

[Aloone_Jonez]

Do you know what?
I've not tried it!
I just assumed that it needed a driver as it came with a driver CD.
I'm going to boot into Linux and try it now, wish me luck!

[Aloone_Jonez]

Certainly doesn't auto-mount, and I've tried the  regular disk mount tool.
Is there a command that I can use to accomplish the task?

[flap]

First do:
modprobe usb-storage

Add a line like this to /etc/fstab

/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat ro,noauto,user 0 0

Replace /mnt/usb with whatever directory you want to mount it as. You can then mount it with
mount /mnt/usb
You may be able to get it to automount with autofs, but I don't know; I don't use it.

[Aloone_Jonez]

Thanks!

This works, but it's retardedly slow, it takes minutes in Linux, and seconds in XP.

Is there anything I can do about this?

[flap]

It takes minutes just to mount, or to actually transfer files?

[Aloone_Jonez]

Transfer files, when you click on a file, it takes ages for it to download, you can almost see it appear pixel by pixel.