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piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: worker201 ---I don't know much about exchange rates. But I do know that a G4 Powerbook would spank that box from here to Christmas.
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I'm sure it would. 300 euro, according to xe.com/ucc, is ~362USD. Get me an early 2005 Mac for that price, even second hand. Ship it over and gimme some benchmarks to run, if you will. The Mac would almost have to be G3 (for that price), and it would be toasted.
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And honestly, nothing against x86 architecture either.
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--- Quote from: you ---Try building a decent PC yourself, and you will find that it is pretty damn expensive.
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I don't know what you meant by "decent", but in early 2005 this wasn't a bad machine.
--- Quote ---Apple has never done that, that's all I am saying.
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Probably wasn't wise to bring in custom-built PCs.
Dark_Me:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---It can run GNU/Linux, which is my favourite operating system. I wouldn't run OS X on this even if it was supported and PPC binaries somehow would run on it.
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Macs can and do run GNU/Linux. Also OSx86 as it is called is not meant to be a serious OS for PC's it's done by people because they can, almost everyone who has OSx86 installed dual boots and just plays around on OSx86.
worker201:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---Probably wasn't wise to bring in custom-built PCs.
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The main reason I mention custom-PCs is that it is very difficult to find top of the line PC hardware built into any consumer products. Your PC was clearly built with consumer products, which makes your PC an exception. Now, if you search around, you can find a workstation with the real top-of-the-line hardware. These are not consumer products, though. And they cost more than the most expensive Mac.
So, my argument, in toto: Mac consumer hardware is generally of higher quality than PC consumer hardware. In order to get PC hardware of a quality comparable to a Mac, you would have to spend more money. Thus, the common argument against Macs based on price alone is misleading and mostly false. That's it.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Dark_Me ---Macs can and do run GNU/Linux.
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Exactly, and if I had a Mac, first thing I'd do is install Ubuntu (and later some other distros or G/LFS again), wiping OS X to fuck off. OS X is a cool, simple OS, but that's not my kinda OS.
If I ever got a Mac, and I might, it'd be an iMac and it'd only be because they're so damn cool. But it'll probably never happen, because it'll probably always be cheaper for me to build a PC from parts, some second hand. And I don't mind the tower standing there in the corner, I don't mind things not being cool (holy crap I'm using a probably over 10 year old 15" COMPAQ monitor), but it'd still be cool to have an iMac. Other than that, if for some reason I wanted a laptop (maybe in the future), I'd almost definetly get one of these PowerMac Pros, because I don't like any other laptops I've seen.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: worker201 ---The main reason I mention custom-PCs is that it is very difficult to find top of the line PC hardware built into any consumer products. Your PC was clearly built with consumer products, which makes your PC an exception. Now, if you search around, you can find a workstation with the real top-of-the-line hardware. These are not consumer products, though. And they cost more than the most expensive Mac.
So, my argument, in toto: Mac consumer hardware is generally of higher quality than PC consumer hardware. In order to get PC hardware of a quality comparable to a Mac, you would have to spend more money. Thus, the common argument against Macs based on price alone is misleading and mostly false. That's it.
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I agree with that but you said:
--- Quote ---Try building a decent PC yourself, and you will find that it is pretty damn expensive.
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which I think is false.
That is all.
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