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Ok Windows is dicking me over, but is it Windows that's the problem?

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lazygamer:
Ok alot of l33t d00dz here. Now I have been having a very tempermental Wind0ze as of late. This is why Linux shall be on my harddrive(alongside the wind0ze) as soon as I format it. Yet today I made a discovery that MAYBE just maybe it's not Windows fault.  :eek:


Here are my symptoms.

Windows seems to freeze up sometimes, doesn't matter whether it's Windows 98 or Windows XP. Even when I re-installed XP(strangely it just put a second XP on the harddrive rather then writing over it) it does the same thing.

I get no error message, often(or always?) no crash, and Windows just freezes up. Then I have to press the reset button on my computer. Sometimes this freeze syndrom has been accompanied by having limited access to mouse movement and perhaps a few of the open windows(although the end result is still having to press the fucking reset button).

Ok what have I done recently? Recently I put on AVG anti-virus and it found some viruses and took care of them. But I honestly think those viruses were low danger viruses. I also put on a program called "BC Wipe". It says that when you delete a file, it only deletes the references on the harddrive and the file is still there. BC Wipe deletes the actual raw content, not just the reference. It can also scan through your harddrive to find "raw content" to delete if you didn't delete the file with BC Wipe. Anyways, I doubt this program or the Virus scanner has anything to do with it.

Ok so you might have some thoughts right now, but it gets more interesting. I think it has something to do with my harddrive(s?).

A couple months ago I started having problems with my system just crashing outright, even in Windows XP(which I found to be somewhat more stable then W98). Sometimes it would reboot and at computer start up screen and say "Primary hard disk fail and Primary slave disk fail". This was only temporary, one or two reboots and the problem disappeared.(until it crashed in this manner again anyways) Now these crashes weren't common, but they weren't rare either.

Recently I've started to notice that it seems like my harddrive sometimes makes alot of wierd noises(reminds of accelrating and de-accelrating) before it does a Windows freeze up.

One harddrive is an 8GB, one is a 40GB. The 40GB was bought a year to one and a half years ago. Windows 98 is on the 8GB and XP is on the 40GB.

voidmain:
Are all of your cooling fans running?  Do you have a fan on the processor and if so is it also running?

lazygamer:
Affirmative. I have three fans. Chip fan, case fan, additonal case fan. All three are up and running. I did however carefully blow out the case with an air compressor(keyword carefully), particualary the fans. You need an air compressor to get all the in-grained dust out of the fan blades. Hopefully that sound I heard was the fans having problems or something due to dust(it was quite dusty in there). I have a sinking feeling that it was not the problem though.

If the problem still persists(we'll see...), would formatting the harddisk magically solve it?  

voidmain:
It is common for the case fans to make that noise, and it's really the only thing that can make that noise, other than the hard drive. It's easy to tell which one is making the noise.  Take the case off and run the machine.  As soon as it makes the noise see if it's coming from the drive or the fan.  They are two different sounds and once you've heard a dry fan bearing you'll know right away which one it is.  Hard drives can make all different kinds of noises when they fail, but fan bearings pretty much all sound the same.

It's not really a problem though other than being annoying.  The bearings are dry, it will fail eventually but it could easily run two more years, wear ear plugs or spend the 5 bucks on a new one.

I would suggest deleting all your partitions and installing Linux.

[ June 23, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]

choasforages:
ok, quick way to check and see if your plaged with my same problems, ok go get a magnifiing glass and open up your cass. turn on a sutibly bright light and look at all the capiciters. if there is brown or black shit coming out the top your fucked./*unless your almost an electronic engeneer like one of my friends*/. i have lost three systems to them. my advice is to keep everything cool as possible

and if im rong would someone of more knowledge correct me on my stance of the dead capiciters killing my boxs

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