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cymon:
No. KDE is an X11 desktop environment. Mac OS X doesn't use X11 natively, it can support X applications; however, it uses Aqua/ Quartz to provide the GUI. X isn't involved, thus making it exempt from X standards.

inane:
Yeah I think that the best gift that Apple could give back to OSS is the source for Aqua/Quartz OS X (the first foray atleast) once they`ve gone down the road a bit. Not so much as it`s own desktop diseperate but more of a base for another GUI server and DE or for comparison and analysis for tweaking of X11 and Gnome, Flux or KDE.

Well it`s the most we could expect. I doubt we could convince them to hand over the deep deep dark secrets of Spotlight ;)

:macos::tux::bsd:=:thumbup:

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: cymon ---No. KDE is an X11 desktop environment. Mac OS X doesn't use X11 natively, it can support X applications; however, it uses Aqua/ Quartz to provide the GUI. X isn't involved, thus making it exempt from X standards.
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Exactly what X11 standards? A few of the ones the KDE and GNOME developers like, they conform to.
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards

KDE and GNOME are different desktop enviornments just like Windows and Mac OS X have different desktop enviornments. What exactly do you expect from KDE and GNOME? They draw with Xlib, so they should be the same? They have pretty big architectural differences and exist for different reasons. KDE is mostly C++, GNOME is mostly C. KDE I don't think has ever put usability before the application of a patch, GNOME has (hence, Linus Torvalds hates GNOME). GNOME is supposed to be network object model and all sorts of crap, I dunno if KDE was/is the same. KDE exists because some guy wanted to make a consistent desktop enviornment, GNOME exists because some guy wanted to be able to run a consistent desktop enviornment on a completely free system (KDE depended on Qt, which wasn't free at the time) and is still alive because said-guy and hundreds of other developers felt like continuing the project even after Qt was GPLed.
--- Quote ---I doubt we could convince them to hand over the deep deep dark secrets of Spotlight
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I read someone's working on a spotlight-like thing for KDE4, and I think it's supposed to be better. KDE4 will also have a dashboard thing, too, muhaha Apple.

H_TeXMeX_H:
It would be cool if they could make KOffice more stable and usable ... then people would have a choice other than OpenOffice in case it didn't work or they didn't like it. As for OpenOffice ... what I do to install it (slightly unconventional, but is probably the best option for me) is I download the rpm version from their site and extract them all manually to one folder, which will end up being a folder called opt ... inside opt is a folder called openoffice.org2.0 which should contain all components if they were extracted correctly. Then I move this folder into the /usr directory and make a launcher with the target /usr/openoffice.org2.0/program/soffice and it works without being installed or having to compile it (which has failed for strange reasons)  ... this keeps yum from trying to update it to the fucked up version in the Fedora repo :D

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H ---It would be cool if they could make KOffice more stable and usable ... then people would have a choice other than OpenOffice in case it didn't work or they didn't like it. As for OpenOffice ... what I do to install it (slightly unconventional, but is probably the best option for me) is I download the rpm version from their site and extract them all manually to one folder, which will end up being a folder called opt ... inside opt is a folder called openoffice.org2.0 which should contain all components if they were extracted correctly. Then I move this folder into the /usr directory and make a launcher with the target /usr/openoffice.org2.0/program/soffice and it works without being installed or having to compile it (which has failed for strange reasons)  ... this keeps yum from trying to update it to the fucked up version in the Fedora repo :D
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Do you have a Java VM installed?
I might try that, it could work.

EDIT: Nah I think I'll wait 'till I get round to installing Debian...

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