Bloody Universal Plug and Play

[cymon]

Besides, the only use of VB is for the 1337 script kiddies to make easily-blocked virii.

[Aloone_Jonez]

The reason OO isn't compatible with VB Scripts is that VB Scripts are a half-assed implementation that should have been scrapped years ago.  No sane person uses them.

What else can you use it you're using MS Office?

And you tell that to companies who have 1000's of Office documents full of VB macros.

[H_TeXMeX_H]

VB macros are bullshit ... and they can be malicious too ... I wouldn't use 'em ... why do companies use them again ?

[Orethrius]

why do companies use them again ?

I believe "lack of willingness to learn a real language, like C or Java" is among the top answers to that question.

[Aloone_Jonez]

I've had to write a VB program at work before, nothing hard just a Spyhawk keyboard tester, that reads values the keyboard sends to the PC via RS232. Once I'd figured out how to use RS232 (which just required custom control) writing the program was fairly straight forward, the problems started when they wanted me to distribute it with an installer.

Instead of writing my own program I used the MS Installer wizard that came with VB and the installer program created was very bloated and buggy (else I could've fitted the whole thing on a floppy). I burned it to a CD and added autoplay but the fucking installer fucked on half of the machines they tried it on, after trying to correct the problem myself I gave up and wrote a good olde batch file installer which did the job in no time at all.

[Jack2000]

man that's sad ... why do people have to be so ... ignorant .... I was gonna say stupid, but maybe they can learn ? ... maybe they just don't care ? ... is there any hope of changing them for the better ? ... is it worth trying ? ... live and let die ... ?

Oses are not the problem people should design apps
that should work on every os!
i mean Win, Lin,Mac and shit...!
EVERY OS!

that is the ONLY way to perfection
make non os specific apps!

[Refalm]

Oses are not the problem people should design apps
that should work on every os!
i mean Win, Lin,Mac and shit...!
EVERY OS!

that is the ONLY way to perfection
make non os specific apps!

The only platform that can succesfully do that is JAVA at the moment.

[cymon]

Yeah, but Java is slow.

[Jack2000]

The only platform that can succesfully do that is JAVA at the moment.

What about system level programs
you know 0 and 1
binary ?
are not they native on all platforms ?

[worker201]

What about system level programs
you know 0 and 1
binary ?
are not they native on all platforms ?

Nope.
PowerPC chips, for example, are Big-endian, while x86 chips are Little-endian.  Given the binary number 101101100, a Mac's G5 will think that the leftmost decimal place is the lowest, so it will evaluate this number to be 109.  On a Dell with a Pentium, it will think this number is 182, since the rightmost decimal place is the lowest.  Similar stories will be seen in other architectures - I think SPARC and AIX are big-endian too.

[davidnix71]

UPnP came turned on in XP by default, off in ME by default and is available to 98SE but not installed by default.

The real problem is that a common user can crash servers with it by issuing a few simple commands. The FBI at one time issued a request to everyone to turn it off because it can so easily cause such mischief. The service shouldn't even exist in the first place, it's just too dangerous to the user (who deserves the trouble for being too lazy to configure the device in person)

Words fail me over some of the stupid s*it Bill Gates puts in Windows.

[H_TeXMeX_H]

Java isn't that slow ... especially with today's processors.

[Refalm]

Java isn't that slow ... especially with today's processors.

It actually is slower than a program made in C++ or C#.NET even.