All Things Microsoft > Microsoft Software

MS Anti-Spyware: Norton Antivirus is a trojan!

<< < (3/8) > >>

H_TeXMeX_H:

--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---http://security.tombom.co.uk/shatter.html

Does anyone know if MS has fixed that exploit since?
--- End quote ---

Great article ... :thumbup: ... I suppose the exploit is not fixable, at least from the info I'm getting.

muzzy:
Yea, it cannot be fixed as long as win32 api is being used. However, as more and more applications move onto .NET, the whole win32 subsystem might become obsolete in the future. With that, its design flaws will also vanish into oblivion.

worker201:

--- Quote from: muzzy ---Yea, it cannot be fixed as long as win32 api is being used. However, as more and more applications move onto .NET, the whole win32 subsystem might become obsolete in the future. With that, its design flaws will also vanish into oblivion.
--- End quote ---

That's going to be a long time in the future - I don't think Windows98, Windows2000, and WindowsXP are going anywhere.  The marginal benefits of upgrading aren't looking good so far.

muzzy:
I don't know anyone anymore who still runs win98 for any real purpose. Well, I think my sister might still use it on one system since she has hardware that doesn't have drivers for anything else. Or perhaps even she doesn't, not sure. The point is, win98 is basically gone already.

Win3.x and ms-dos are still used in many commercial settings, especially in systems that aren't networked. However, this is done for applications. For generic use, home users and commercial workstations, the w9x line is already in the past.

Also, there's .NET framework for current windows systems, which means people can move to .NET systems without changing their OS. The point is, when enough software is on .NET the underlying OS can be completely changed. The real question is, how much everyday software is going to move to the .NET platform and how soon?

The .NET framework has still some work to do, too. It's not very mature, you'll run into problems by trying to write even the simplest of applications. However, it's being worked on and in 2-4 years we'll have stable .NET platform with sensible APIs for writing real world applications. Another 2-4 years from that and microsoft will have ported their significant applications to .NET and by then we probably have stable GNU mono around as well.

Maybe :)

worker201:

--- Quote from: muzzy ---I don't know anyone anymore who still runs win98 for any real purpose. Well, I think my sister might still use it on one system since she has hardware that doesn't have drivers for anything else. Or perhaps even she doesn't, not sure. The point is, win98 is basically gone already.
--- End quote ---


So sorry, but I believe you are quite mistaken.  I know lots of people who run Windows 98.  In 100% of those cases, it is because their computers couldn't handle a higher version, either because of poor processor power, or low RAM.  Mostly, these people use their computers for records-keeping and WalMart-software.  But they are still computer users.  And the marginal cost of buying a P3 with 256MB RAM is more than the marginal benefit of increased performance.  Relatively low income households, is what I am talking about here.

Admittedly, when I have to use (or more likely "fix") these people's computers, I feel all icky and wonder what the fuck they are doing with such a piece of shit.  But does that mean they should be totally written off when it comes to support and protection?  I don't think so.  
I am uninterested in denying the technologically underpriveleged the right to information.

Navigation

[0] Message Index

[#] Next page

[*] Previous page