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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #15 on: 18 February 2006, 00:55 »
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64-bit computing and SSE2/3 are more to be feared. If new copyright material is produced in high quality encrypted 64-bit only with a copyprotect flag (no IDE redirect) enforced on the mobo by firmware, then you might no even be able to play it on 32-bit computers, much less crack and copy it.

Pirates will have to have nice camcorders to film what they want to pass around.

And that's what makes this so stupid - pirates WILL film stuff and pass it around.


Goddamm techno-capitalists.  All they want is money.  

"We've sold everyone a TV and a car and a record player - what can we sell them now? Oh, hey, a personal computer, I bet lots of people will buy those."
And thus was the market flooded with consumer electronics for the manipulation of data.

"Gosh, now everyone has a computer, what else can we sell them?  How about a cd player and a dvd player?"
And thus was the market flooded with consumer electronics for the playback of digital media.

"Gosh, now everyone has a computer and a cd player and a dvd player, what are we gonna sell them now?  Better think of something fast, or we're going to have to suspend corporate bonus-bonuses this week.  Well, I guess we could sell everyone a cd burner and a dvd burner, and cd/dvd copying software."
And thus was the market flooded with the tools required to copy/duplicate digital media.

"Well, that's about it, there really isn't anything more we can sell these people without putting ourselves out of business.  Wait, I've got it!  We'll sue the shit out of everyone on the planet, and get our money back.  Brilliant!"
And thus were the courts and police blotters flooded with accusations of piracy and theft against people who simply wanted to try out their new digital media copiers.

to be continued...

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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #16 on: 18 February 2006, 01:02 »
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What evil asshats should go against the wall when the revolution comes?
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MPAA
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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #17 on: 18 February 2006, 01:34 »
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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #18 on: 18 February 2006, 02:35 »
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Pirates will have to have nice camcorders to film what they want to pass around.


No camcorders required all you need to do is write a program to play the film and re-encode each frame and sound byte - it's already possible.
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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #19 on: 18 February 2006, 05:50 »
You could probably just use mencode or transcode to do it ... you can even capture streams ... although it's probably illegal to do so

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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #20 on: 18 February 2006, 14:24 »
But how is it being illegal goning to stop people?
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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #21 on: 18 February 2006, 18:16 »
Well ... of course it's not ... only if large numbers of people get caught and fined or sent to prison ... somehow I feel that if that happened the prison system would not be able to handle it. Basically the prison system is overloaded as is, in some states they release people with minor offenses from jail to make room for those who commit more serious crimes.

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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #22 on: 18 February 2006, 18:51 »
Don't you do electronic tagging over in the US?
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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #23 on: 18 February 2006, 22:28 »
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Well ... of course it's not ... only if large numbers of people get caught and fined or sent to prison ... somehow I feel that if that happened the prison system would not be able to handle it. Basically the prison system is overloaded as is, in some states they release people with minor offenses from jail to make room for those who commit more serious crimes.


Yes, but may I point out that more and more, the US government is for sale to people with $$?  

Already, there are laws on the books for taking a video camera into a movie theatre.  These have harsher jail terms than for most violent crimes.  No, I'm not kidding.  Beat the shit out of someone, and you will get out of jail faster than if you get caught with a video camera in a movie house.

That is, if they bother to prosecute the violent perp in the first place.   From my experiences, I can tell you that that the police probably won't even bother to arrest the perp, even if they have witnesses and know exactly where he is (unless he puts his victim in the hospital).  Cops just don't care... but OMFG pirating a movie!!!! You evil son of a bitch!
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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #24 on: 18 February 2006, 23:04 »
That's true, here in the UK you can get 10 years for pirating a film which is similar sentence to child abuse and a lesser sentence than being found with child porn on your PC. :rolleyes:
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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #25 on: 19 February 2006, 02:25 »
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That's true, here in the UK you can get 10 years for pirating a film which is similar sentence to child abuse and a lesser sentence than being found with child porn on your PC. :rolleyes:

Holy shit ... that's definitely not a good sign :eek: ... dammit we gotta do something ... but what ?

One very radical idea that just popped into my head is to either boycott all companies acusing people of "piracy".

Or, pirate the shit out of everything from these companies until the owners are homeless, literally !

Note: These require massive support from the public in order to have any effect whatsoever

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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #26 on: 19 February 2006, 06:40 »
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That's true, here in the UK you can get 10 years for pirating a film which is similar sentence to child abuse and a lesser sentence than being found with child porn on your PC. :rolleyes:


I didn't know that the UK had the same problem, but it makes perfect sense.

Children have no money.  How can they buy off legislators to get laws that will properly protect them from sexual predators?  

The movie and music industry has lots of money.  They are, and will continue to buy laws to protect their business interests.  Moreover, they are and will continue to buy legislation to expand their business interests and control over content beyond copyright law, using "piracy" as an excuse (such as the proposed "analog-hole" legislation).
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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #27 on: 19 February 2006, 13:59 »
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Holy shit ... that's definitely not a good sign :eek: ... dammit we gotta do something ... but what ?

One very radical idea that just popped into my head is to either boycott all companies acusing people of "piracy".

Or, pirate the shit out of everything from these companies until the owners are homeless, literally !

Note: These require massive support from the public in order to have any effect whatsoever
I have been working on this for the past 6 years :P

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Re: DRM coming to Hard Drives
« Reply #28 on: 19 February 2006, 15:19 »
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Yes, but may I point out that more and more, the US government is for sale to people with $$?  

Already, there are laws on the books for taking a video camera into a movie theatre.  These have harsher jail terms than for most violent crimes.  No, I'm not kidding.  Beat the shit out of someone, and you will get out of jail faster than if you get caught with a video camera in a movie house.

That is, if they bother to prosecute the violent perp in the first place.   From my experiences, I can tell you that that the police probably won't even bother to arrest the perp, even if they have witnesses and know exactly where he is (unless he puts his victim in the hospital).  Cops just don't care... but OMFG pirating a movie!!!! You evil son of a bitch!


It just gets funnier when you figure in that some murderers and rapists get out faster than someone who tries to record a movie in a theater.

I predict the MPAA and RIAA will attempt to have piracy reclassified as a terrorist crime by the end of the year. Why is it that I can seriously see someone being locked up in Guantanamo Bay with terrorism suspects and denied access to a lawyer for ten years before ever seeing the inside of a courtroom?
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