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Why do we want people to switch to Linux ?
inane:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---piratePenguin and I have had many discussions (well more like flame wars) about this, here are the two most prominent:
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9666&page=1&pp=25
http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9566&page=1&pp=25
Because we're both so oppinionated neither of us have effected the other's views so make up your own mind.
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Your point being Aloone? Two discussions hardly closes the book on this subject, especially on one that so many brilliant people have spent so many years time invested in and within the confines of the Microsoft Eradication Society's forums. Besides Pirate was a little confused from what I could read, like the LGPL was created for open source documentation, period. It's often used for various Free Software libraries.
Trust me, you cannot possibly change my mind here, don't even try. I have already decided to dedicate my life to the ideals of the FSF and I've visited the head office twice. RMS is my idol and you'll be hard pressed to find a day when I am not wearing a GNU shirt. I'm a GPL whore. If you don't like what I say, so be it, we'll agree to disagree.
I respect you Aloone and I'm not trying to start a flame war here.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: inane ---Your point being Aloone? Two discussions hardly closes the book on this subject, especially on one that so many brilliant people have spent so many years time invested in and within the confines of the Microsoft Eradication Society's forums. Besides Pirate was a little confused from what I could read, like the LGPL was created for open source documentation, period. It's often used for various Free Software libraries.
Trust me, you cannot possibly change my mind here, don't even try. I have already decided to dedicate my life to the ideals of the FSF and I've visited the head office twice. RMS is my idol and you'll be hard pressed to find a day when I am not wearing a GNU shirt. I'm a GPL whore. If you don't like what I say, so be it, we'll agree to disagree.
I respect you Aloone and I'm not trying to start a flame war here.
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--- Quote from: me, [url ---http://www.microsuck.com/forums/showpost.php?p=103776&postcount=64]After[/url] reading http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html (again), I partly forgive GNU for inventing the LGPL.
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If glibc was using the LGPL, then non-free software developers *could* build non-free software for GNU/Linux using a C library from one of the *BSDs or something. GNU/Linux systems would need two C libraries then (probably possible after a bit of work) if they want to run non-free software.
So if the LGPL never existed it wouldn't *end* non-free software on GNU/Linux but it would make it harder to develop/run non-free software on GNU/Linux, I don't see why that is terribly bad considering glibc is a GNU project anyhow.
What do you mean by "like the LGPL was created for open source documentation, period"?
davidnix71:
My father put the latest Ubuntu on a P3 Dell he had to spare last week. I downloaded the iso and burned it. He had downloaded an iso but didn't know how to properly make the disc. The online updates were a snap, just click and okay.
The hard part was security. He balked at setting up accounts. Windozes doesn't require more than admin, which = root. Ubuntu does and he didn't understand why. After forcing him to set up a user account and then authenticating the update install, he saw the light.
One advantage to more Linux would be the realization that Bill is an idiot who has compromised everyone's privacy and security for no good reason by allowing Windozes users to run and surf at the root.
One more possible advantage to more Linux users would be a less technical compile and install procedure for third-party software. I can't even get my mac to compile properly because there are too many variations of GCC. Disc images are the way to go. It takes more bandwidth to distribute because you can't depend on sharing libs, but it's foolproof.
inane:
I do not know, I had read a long time ago somewhere that the lighter version of the GPL had been made solely for the documentation of GPL'd programs. Later on being adapted for Free Software libraries... I went looking for where I had read it and I guess I had read it incorrectly. Sorry.
Anyway, I don't want proprietary software on my OS. When I hear about non-free GNU/Linux apps and people telling me how I should use them it makes me think of laying a brick on top of an infant.
One of the guys in the threads that you posted a link to, aloone, said to pp "you can't mix morals with economics." That is exactly what's wrong with Microsoft and many other companies. That implies that for the profit you wouldn't mind seeing a couple thousand kids killed. Virtue is EVERYTHING, not the almighty dollar. It's preposterous to think that since it's not in our faces right now that it will never be if we pursue a particular sphere of action. The fault of many is in the confidence of a percieved tower of knowledge. We are self confident inside ignorance. We think that the only way is the current course because that is all we know and change is out of the question. If there is going to be change it needs to be drastic because our MO will not unless it IS drastic. We must let Free Software change US and not the other way around. There is more than simply one way and I'll leave it with a quote from a good friend:
"People always fear change. People feared electricity when it was invented, didn't they? People feared coal, they feared gas-powered engines... There will always be ignorance, and ignorance leads to fear. But with time, people will come to accept their silicon masters."
--Bill Gates
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: inane ---I respect you Aloone and I'm not trying to start a flame war here.
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Fair enough, I'm just putting forward both sides of the arguement.
By the way, MASM32 isn't Microsoft even though its EULA is worse than Microsot's.
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