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Xeniczone

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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #15 on: 14 April 2006, 16:00 »
yeh why is that a big deal they have alway been able to run linux. There is even a free linux made by apple called darwin.
 
other then the little hardware support. it would be easy to run mac on a windows based pc.
 
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Macs don't use the standard PC BIOS,

DUHHHHHHH...... wTF do you think this program boot camp does.


If I had the least version of mac os (sadly i don't i was waiting for the intel powermacs) I would use this program just to prove it is real.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #16 on: 14 April 2006, 16:27 »
Apprently there is a way to use Boot Camp to make OS X boot on vanilla PC's. But I have no idea how.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #17 on: 14 April 2006, 19:59 »
i have always perseved macs
as an evil !
you know like... macs are not so different then the other computers
but they yap all about how they are better then Ms
and still end up doing the same thing not allowing people to run what
they want on their PC
i do not know how they do it / or why for that matter
but it is like "Catch the thief said the thief!"
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #18 on: 14 April 2006, 21:59 »
Quote from: Jack2000
i have always perseved macs
as an evil !
you know like... macs are not so different then the other computers
but they yap all about how they are better then Ms
and still end up doing the same thing not allowing people to run what
they want on their PC
i do not know how they do it / or why for that matter
but it is like "Catch the thief said the thief!"
You can run GNU/Linux and other OSes on Macs. Just can't run OS X on non-Macs (without a bit of hacking), which does indeed suck.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #19 on: 15 April 2006, 02:43 »
It's also worth mentioning that Darwin is BSD, not Linux.  Different licensing structure.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #20 on: 23 April 2006, 16:45 »
Got a question...


Will Boot Camp run on my powerbook? Not to install windows, but to install ppc-linux. If not Boot Camp, than is there a simple program to repartition my HDD so that I can get a dualboot of os x and ppc-linux?
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #21 on: 23 April 2006, 20:46 »
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Got a question...


Will Boot Camp run on my powerbook? Not to install windows, but to install ppc-linux. If not Boot Camp, than is there a simple program to repartition my HDD so that I can get a dualboot of os x and ppc-linux?
GNU parted can shrink HFS/HFS+ but I don't think it works on OS X. It works on FreeBSD though (which is supposed to be similar).

GNU/Linux distribution installers like Ubuntu's use parted, I think, to partition the drive, so when installing them they should be able to resize your HFS/HFS+ partition.

BTW what PPC distro are you gonna use? I've heard YellowDog[/ul] is good. I'd expect Debian, Ubuntu and Gentoo to also be good.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #22 on: 23 April 2006, 22:00 »
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And that won't happen.

It won't happen if you keep saying that.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #23 on: 23 April 2006, 22:02 »
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I'd expect Debian, Ubuntu and Gentoo to also be good.

The Ubuntu PPC Distro is better than Yellowdog in my experience.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #24 on: 24 April 2006, 04:17 »
I'll have to read up on which ones support apple's airport wifi before i choose which one to install on here. I tried a 5.10 ppc-ubuntu live cd on this and the wireless didn't work, but i always have trouble with live cds and wireless connectivity
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #25 on: 24 April 2006, 04:52 »
The Airport Extreme Wifi in your (and mine) Powerbook is unsupported by Linux period.  It's a Broadcom chipset, and will probably never work in Linux.  You'll have to get a USB wireless adapter if you want wireless PPC Linux on that thing.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #26 on: 24 April 2006, 10:52 »
Hardware, no matter how good it would otherwise be, without published, available specifications and other information for software developers, makes me cry.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #27 on: 24 April 2006, 11:32 »
Whic is why some would consider closed source hardware to be evil. ;)
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #28 on: 24 April 2006, 22:27 »
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Whic is why some would consider closed source hardware to be evil. ;)
Not because it makes me cry, but because of why it makes me cry.

File formats without good, publically available specifications also makes me cry for much the same reason (Microsoft, Macromedia - FUCK YOU. Macromedia as much as MS (in this area. Altogether MS is more evil with the DRM and other copy protection shit), because SWF files are all over the otherwise mostly-ordered world wide web (THANK YOU w3c, mozilla, opera, konqueror, and other good people). And the license on the latest SWF spec's make them useless to writers of 3rd-party SWF interpreters.).

Maybe I should've said it makes me want to SCREAM instead of cry.....

I officially don't want a Mac anymore BTW. In the future I will be trying hard to buy hardware whose developers have released enough documentation, and that'll probably mean choosing every piece of hardware myself, something I can't do with Macs.
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Re: Apple's Boot Camp beta
« Reply #29 on: 25 April 2006, 00:32 »
I agree, this is the main problem with proprietay software and closed sourced hardware. I don't think either are evil I just believe it's immoral to keep specfications secret and to this end any doing so is evil - I don't have a problem with someone making a closed source app and then making the file formats public.

I'm sure I've said this before but I can understand why some developers don't use the GPL because it them the right to keep interlectual property and to force people to pay for using their software but I think something needs to be done to force them to release some informatin regarding formats.
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