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Mastertech:
Oh it will probably run but so will IE and there is no proof of the ridiculous claims that on that Hardware the memory leaking (I mean memory caching) Firefox will run better than IE.
Lead Head:
--- Quote from: Mastertech ---Oh it will probably run but so will IE and there is no proof of the ridiculous claims that on that Hardware the memory leaking (I mean memory caching) Firefox will run better than IE.
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Herm...lets see here, firefox adjust's how much memory it uses to cache based on your total systems mem.
Dark_Me:
--- Quote ---I have tested everything I claim. FF's performance severly declines below those requirements. Mozilla clearly states they are the minimum and also includes recommended requirements. Microsoft includes no mention of the word absolute,
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--- Quote ---Sure... Please provide documented reproduceable proof of your claims. I see this all the time people making unfounded claims.
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You ask everyone else to prove their claims but provide no proof of yours.
Orethrius:
--- Quote from: Dark_Me ---You ask everyone else to prove their claims but provide no proof of yours.
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Oh leave him alone already, he's more than earned his stay in our Pity Parlour. Having said that, I find it rather disturbing that one man can be so convinced of his own self-worth that everybody else is considered to be next to scum - requiring others to provide proof of their standpoints without sufficiently establishing his own first. Let those who live in glass houses be the first to throw stones, I say.
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: Mastertech ---IT IT NOT SUPPOSED TO! Wake up. This is not a comparison guide.
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This is the biggest problem with your page.
If it isn't supposed to be a comparison guide then why do you compare Firefox to other browsers, even when they myth you're addressing isn't comparative?
For example:
--- Quote ---Acid 2 Browser Test
Myth - "Firefox fully supports the most important W3C Standards"
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You then compare it to Opera, but not Internet Explorer
--- Quote --- It is not a review of Firefox. It is only a Firefox Myths page. The information is provided so people do not fall for the Myths when making that decision.
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Yet you ingnore the fact that in order for the reader to make an informed decision it needs to be a comparison guide.
--- Quote --- Every single Fanboy/Anti-Microsoft user is incapable of understanding this.
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Don't gerneralise, I understand this the only thing is it doesn't inform the reader of all the facts.
--- Quote ---I've read it. In recommendations like this that is because ActiveX can be used to exploit the vulnerability NOT because the vulnerability is due to ActiveX.
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Either way, the vunerability can't be exploited it ActiveX is disabled.
--- Quote ---No it is NOT. IE's security and Opera's in the context of the Myth "Firefox is Secure" are both irrelevant.
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No because you only make comparasons when it suits you.
--- Quote ---This is NOT a comparison guide.
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It is but only when it backs up your arguement.
--- Quote ---Just because certain Myths use comparisons does not change this fact.
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Read the above.
--- Quote ---The page only debunks Myths.
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Also comparing Firefox with other browsers when it suits you.
--- Quote --- I have not compared it to IE in the sense of a comparison guide.
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No because that would make IE look bad, oh sorry you only compare it on the points where IE is slightly stronger, and that's when it's convenient for you of course.
--- Quote --- I have stated Myths that just so happen to be comparisons. That is the nature of Firefox Myths. Some of the Myths people spread are incorrect comparisons with misinformation.
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And you've also made comparisons when dealing with those that aren't, but that's only when it suits you.
--- Quote ---According to the current vulnerability count it is slightly more secure but still clearly insecure. Again this is irrelevant to the Firefox Myths page.
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Alright then how is Opera bieng the most secure browser relevant to your Firefox myths page? Yet you've included it, why?
--- Quote ---This is a common recommendation by security companies during the time any critical vulnerability for any browser is unpatched.
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Go on, show me a page from a respected security body that recommends you shouldn't use Firefox.
--- Quote ---I have tested everything I claim. FF's performance severly declines below those requirements. Mozilla clearly states they are the minimum and also includes recommended requirements. Microsoft includes no mention of the word absolute,
Microsoft does as well.
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Bullshit!
From the same source as your site:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/evaluation/sysreqs/default.mspx
--- Quote ---Windows XP:
32 MB of RAM minimum
Full install size: 12 MB
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However XP requires a minimum of 64MB of RAM!
--- Quote ---Page Compatibility has little to do with W3C standards support since so many pages do not conform to W3C standards. This is one of the biggest things clueless people do not get. IE is the standard of which many pages are coded.
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Which desrves some explaination if you want your reader to be informed.
--- Quote ---* Download speed of what? A file? That has nothing to do with the browser. It has to do with your bandwidth limit of your internet connection.
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And your browser.
--- Quote ---No it just proves Opera is well coded and the nonsense about components of IE loading at Windows startup is irrelevant.
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True it does prove how well Opera is coded and yes the IE components are loaded at startup but it isn't the fastet starting browser - there's no excuse for that.
--- Quote ---What part of FIREFOX MYTHS IS NOT A COMPARISON GUIDE do you not comprehend?
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Well you obviously don't understand that youself since you make comparisons totally irrelevant to Fierfox myths, when it suits you of course.
Conclusion
You're clearly a pro-IE person (alright Avant but it still uses IE's core). You're sick of hearing various myths spread about by misinformed Firefox supporters and in a bid to readdress the ballance you've written a page to debunk these. Being an IE supporter you've biased your page to support your view by making comparasons when they back-up your arguement and ignoring the ones that don't.
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