giving bill administrator rights

[rdegenna]

I know that the latest version of media player gives msoft the right to do stuff I don't want done.  I've heard that there is another "upgrade" at the windows upgrade site that also does this, but I can't determine whether this is true or not. Any of you know anything?

Our system administrator wants us to apply an upgrade from

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/downloads/critical/q323759ie/default.asp

He says this blocks hackers, but I'd rather have the hacker invading my system than ms.  Is this upgrade safe, or does it give ms admin rights?

Any help appreciated -- either here or at [email protected].

Thanks.

Ray DeGennaro

[Refalm]

Trust me, Microsoft is already spying on you... if your using Windows XP, I recommend applying this programme:  http://www.xp-antispy.de/

And for the Administrator account in Windows NT/2000/XP, it stays that way...

More information on Microsoft's Really Hidden files:

 http://www.fuckmicrosoft.com/content/ms-hidden-files.shtml

[HPC GUY]

here is a question then, if bill has admin rights on your machine, if something should happen then shouldnt he be held accountable?

[mobrien_12]

Read the EULA.  Read all of the MS EULA's very carefully, to see if they pull some kind of crap.

For example

1)  You agree to let them upload and install patches/DRM automatically to your computer.

2)  You agree to give up your rights to publish benchmarks of .net

3)  You agree not to use the product to produce a document which criticizes MS


If you don't like the EULA, there are alternatives.  Use Mozilla instead of MSIE,Winamp/oggvorbisplayer/realplayer/etc instead of WMP....

Or just use Linux/BSD/MacOSX etc instead of Windows.  

[Doctor V]

quote:Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
Read the EULA.  Read all of the MS EULA's very carefully, to see if they pull some kind of crap.

Them EULA's are so long and confusing, nobody, including me wants to read them.  It takes less time to install Linux than it does to get through one of them EULA's thoroughly(however its spelled).  Takes easily less than an hour to be ready to go, starting from scratch(depending on distro).  Only one type of licence there, GPL.  Read through that, and it covers most of your applications already.  Its alot less restrictive.  No giving admin rights to anyone    .  Hard to believe the kinda low-down dirty Nazi-like junk in those M$ EULAs.

V

[Stryker]

"You may install, use, access,
      display and run one copy of the Product on a single
      computer, such as a workstation, terminal or other device
      ("Workstation Computer").  The Product may not be used
      by more than two (2) processors at  any one time on any
      single Workstation Computer."
-EULA for XP Professional.

you aren't allowed more than 2 processors? And if I did would they take me to court?

[saddlemagic]

No, I doubt they take you to court, yet. What M$ is implementing in the business world will be the model and test case.

Their eventual plan is probably along this line. The program reports to M$ headquarters, if it reports running on more than one machine or being installed more than once. The billing office at M$ sends you an invoice for the additional copies you should have bought. I'm sure they will charge your credit card or bank account if they can.

[beltorak0]

wrong again; since they no longer know how many machines you are running the "_"product"_" on, you have to buy new packages for each machine.... allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.  at least that's how i figure they would do it.

-t.

[Stryker]

but what if, which I never would, i wanted to install windows xp pro on an 8 proc machine? would it simply fail to work, or would it just be "wrong" and illegal?

[saddlemagic]

Well, if you were to install Win2k on, lets five different computers and one of those installations failed after and had to be reinstalled. You are correct, M$ does not know how many installations but, when each computer hits the Internet it will phone home and report that it has been installed. The machine that needed the reinstall may be reported as two installations. Remember, Windows is designed to grind to a halt unless you get those updates from the M$ site.

After Uncle Bill's folks gather up all that information they need only charge you for five copies of Win2k. Provided you have registered the software to cover the first installation.

If M$ is kind enough to set up a system where you pay them yearly for software licenses (or monthly?). Then it could be set up through the bank for auto payment, just like the electric company or phone company.

That way when your computer crashes and you have to reinstall Windows or when you go to the M$ site and download all the patches needed to keep it from crashing. At the end of the month M$ will just take what they think you owe them for the privilege.

[rtgwbmsr]

Win2K SP3 EULA FUNTIME!

"By using these features, you explicitly authorize Microsoft or its designated agent to access and utilize the necessary information for updating purposes. Microsoft may use this information solely to improve our products or to provide customized services or technologies to you. Microsoft may disclose this information to others, but not in a form that personally identifies you.

"* The OS Product or OS Components contain components that enable and facilitate the use of certain Internet-based services. You acknowledge and agree that Microsoft may automatically check the version of the OS Product and/or its components that you are utilizing and may provide upgrades or fixes to the OS Product that will be automatically downloaded to your computer."

I'm going to install it right now /sarcasm

WTF?!? It's already there!