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H_TeXMeX_H:

--- Quote from: toadlife ---That's insane. Vista will not cost $450.00.
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It will cost at least $300 ... XP Pro was $299 when it was released ... shouldn't expect Vi$ta to cost less. Rumors are it will be around $450 ... who knows if they are true.

toadlife:

--- Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H ---It will cost at least $300 ... XP Pro was $299 when it was released ... shouldn't expect Vi$ta to cost less. Rumors are it will be around $450 ... who knows if they are true.
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So you pulled that price out of your ass. That's what I thought. ;)

Anyhow, almost nobody pays retail price for Windows. They buy OEM copies with their new machines, or the parts they buy for their new machines.

Lead Head:

--- Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H ---ATI and reliable should not be in the same sentence.

My definition of reliability is that a component last without major problems for at least 10 years under normal use.

2 major companies that fail this are Creative and ATI ... and many cheap ones as well, I remember there was a cheap HDD that broke in 2 weeks, and other components you might find say in a Compaq. You get what you pay for ... cheap is cheap.
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What are you talking about!? Some guy had his radeon x1900 XTX super cooled under a phase change cooler, but he forgot to switch the cooler on, the core of the video card got hot enough to melt the the plastic bracket holding the evaporator on, the card STILL worked after being expose to 90*C+ temperatures...If thats not reliable, I don't know what is. ATi's lastest GPUs are extremely reliable. They shouldn't be any less reliable then nVidia considering ATi's and nVidia's chips are both made in the same place!

Cheap does not always mean cheap. Alot of companies clear out their excess stock and incase you havent been paying atention to the lastest GPU/CPU news, ATI is locked in a price war with nVidia and AMD is locked in a price war with Intel. What does this mean? The customer wins.

cymon:

--- Quote from: Lead Head ---Saphire x1800GTO 256MB $189
Athlon 64 3500 $114
OCZ Gold Series 1GB DDR2 Kit $95
MSI K9N Neo-F AM2 Mobo $80
Antec TruePower 2.0 550Watt PSU $90
BenQ DVD Burner $35

Tex, I have no idea where you get your prices from....The rig above is more then enough to run vista, ontop of that it can play pretty much any game known to man at max quality. All for $603.
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Wow, someone's been out of the hardware loop.  Two GB of RAM is soon becoming the new gaming standard.  Also, no dual-core processor?  Don't bother with multitasking then.  I'd take an X1900XTX if I'm going ATi, which I'd never do because their linux drivers are shit.  You also don't even list a case.

Lead Head:

--- Quote from: cymon ---Wow, someone's been out of the hardware loop.  Two GB of RAM is soon becoming the new gaming standard.  Also, no dual-core processor?  Don't bother with multitasking then.  I'd take an X1900XTX if I'm going ATi, which I'd never do because their linux drivers are shit.  You also don't even list a case.
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Wtf? I was trying to make a CHEAP and good vista ready rig. not to mention the amount of apps that use dual core CPUs are very little. 2GB of ram is not becoming the standard(yet). It will soon, but 1GB of ram is the norm. The x1900XTX is overpriced and will be CPU limited until Conroe hits the streets, even then it will still be slightly CPU limited. Why spend $500 on an x1900XTX when the x1800GTO can still play any game maxed? you would assume the person upgrading would already have a case. Like I said, the goal of the above assembled rig is to make a good vista ready gaming rig. not "teh uber high end".

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