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cymon:
A video card isn't worth shit if there's no drivers.  ATi's drivers are poor quality, so there goes any advantage of a more powerful card, especially on Linux/BSD.

Lead Head:

--- Quote from: toadlife ---Well there is more to a Video card than raw performance. Many people avoid ATI because to this day, they still write very shitty drivers. Even if ATI drivers didn't suck, they would still be a no-go for me because they don't support FreeBSD at all.
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Yes, but their drivers since the 6.x have been getting progesivley better with every version

EDIT:Odly enough, they support BeOS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon

EDIT: What do you mean there goes the advantage? ATI is ontop of the ORB and still leads in games, nVidia has to resort to QUAD SLI to keep performence up. Plus nVidia said they were gonna have HDR+AA support with 7900 series. They didnt.

toadlife:

--- Quote from: Lead Head ---Yes, but their drivers since the 6.x have been getting progesivley better with every version

EDIT:Odly enough, they support BeOS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon

EDIT: What do you mean there goes the advantage? ATI is ontop of the ORB and still leads in games, nVidia has to resort to QUAD SLI to keep performence up. Plus nVidia said they were gonna have HDR+AA support with 7900 series. They didnt.
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I've been hearing the "ATI's divers have been getting better" schtick for years now, and my experience tells me it's simply not true.

For a long time at work we specified that our machines get Nvidia only cards, because we had all had bad experience with ati drivers and didn't want to muck around with driver issues. Recently we bought five computers and our vendor shipped them with ATI x800 cards. The drivers cause random lockups and the machines were virtually unusable until a new driver came out about a week later. The driver was so bad that even Microsoft released the updated driver via Windows update.

In 2004 we bought some Alienware laptops for everyone in the department and the Radeon 9600 drivers have caused periodic BSODs ever since then. I finally got a new driver a couple of months ago and havn't had a bluescreen since. Look like it only took them two years to get that one right.

Bottom line: ATI's puts out too many unstable drivers.

inane:



Ok well here's my current XP partition... with litestep I think it looks better than Vista could plausibly hope to look. Notice that it only takes up 19 mb... it seems that Microsoft can't even take a hint from it's third party developers.

BTW the litestep theme is Go! and the native vistual style is Glitch. Both are untouched.

pofnlice:
Ati is for some and not for others. I have a Radeon 8500 LE in this one and it runs smooth and fine. Never had any problems with it.

Another older computer of mine is running and OLD ASS Radeon 7200, no problems at all.

One of my other systems (my SUSE puter) has a Nvidia Geforce 4, MX 4600. CRAP. It's why it's on my linux machine. I can't use it to play games in Windows, and support for it is better in Linux, except that I loose 3d emulation with it.

Besides all this kewl hardware bragging...and tech talk...and callin bullshit, I think you all proved the point of what I was getting at. At least an upgrade will be necessary to run it...

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