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Vista public BETA released
Orethrius:
--- Quote from: toadlife ---So you pulled that price out of your ass. That's what I thought.
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Actually, considering pricepoints of XP, and the fluctuating claims between UE being $250 - $380 and everything in between, I don't think that final estimate is too far off - and the situation did not warrant your flippant remark.
--- Quote from: toadlife ---Anyhow, almost nobody pays retail price for Windows. They buy OEM copies with their new machines, or the parts they buy for their new machines.
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Yeah, and if Microsoft ever decides to shore up that loophole, millions of vendors, users, and so on have just become pirates. Congratulations, you need to buy ANOTHER copy! That whole issue really only exists because the manufacturer edict is that "Windows OEM may only be sold with new computers"... it doesn't specify what constitutes a new computer (I know a couple places that sell it with Cat-5). If Microsoft can make vociferous claims that every copy of Windows that fails WGA is pirated, what makes you think they're going to claim anything else for perceived distribution violations? After all, they'd only get more business from the deal.
H_TeXMeX_H:
--- Quote from: WMD ---Be careful there. My brother's computer is a 7-year old Compaq Deskpro (500MHz P3, 384MB RAM, 10+80GB hard drives). Nothing in there has ever broken.
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Well, he probably got lucky, my first PC a Compaq broke in 3 months. And I know many other people who have had problems with their compaqs ... and I've had lots of experience with them in computer science classes ... nobody wants to use them because they blow goats. Dells are at least 100x better and just as cheap.
--- Quote from: toadlife ---So you pulled that price out of your ass. That's what I thought. ;)
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Here is my ass:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/30/windows-vista-ultimate-450-us/
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4463/53/
I never pull things out of my ass ... I pull them from Google's ass :)
WMD:
--- Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H ---Well, he probably got lucky, my first PC a Compaq broke in 3 months. And I know many other people who have had problems with their compaqs ... and I've had lots of experience with them in computer science classes ... nobody wants to use them because they blow goats.
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Those were probably consumer-level Compaqs. That's the trick. The Deskpro is a business machine.
cymon:
--- Quote from: Jack2000 ---about the RAM
you know Vista reqs a DDR2 ram not DDR ot SD !
so if you had computer from back then you are screwed
your mother board will not be compatible with that too...
and if you want a healthy system with fat-type of fsys
you are screwed tooo !
so i do not like vista i aint upgrading just for that ...
maby fot Half-life 2 or some other major hit that i like
but not for M$!
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Processors and motherboards require DDR2, not operating systems. Vista doesn't care whether you're on DDR or DDR2.
toadlife:
--- Quote from: H_TeXMeX_H ---Well, he probably got lucky, my first PC a Compaq broke in 3 months. And I know many other people who have had problems with their compaqs ... and I've had lots of experience with them in computer science classes ... nobody wants to use them because they blow goats. Dells are at least 100x better and just as cheap.
Here is my ass:
http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/30/windows-vista-ultimate-450-us/
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/4463/53/
I never pull things out of my ass ... I pull them from Google's ass :)
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Thanks Tex. :)
If XP pro was $300.00 when it came out in 2001, that would translate into $325.00 adjusted for inflation today. So, if those guesses are correct, ultimate will be more expensive that XP Pro was. But ultimate is media center/tablet PC edition rolled into one, so there are more features. One of the lesser editions would probably suffice for most people. I'm curious what the other version will cost.
I still maintain that quoting retail prices is not realistic, as almost no one pays them, and the idea of Microsoft "cracking down" and preventing people from buying OEM versions sounds far fetched to me. One of the things you give up when buying OEM version is support from Microsoft. Providing support is expensive, which is why OEM versions cost so much less. When you buy a retail version, you are entitled to a certain amount of free phone support directly from Microsoft. With OEM versions, Microsoft offloads the responsibility of support to the OEM. If you buy an OEM version from newegg, then the "OEM" is you.
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