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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #45 on: 27 June 2006, 17:30 »
You guys are such assholes.
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #46 on: 27 June 2006, 20:29 »
Thanks for making be wait until I get home before I can veiw this thread bitches!
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #47 on: 27 June 2006, 21:41 »
I have Opera, but it has more problems than I like. I might try v9, but I'm probably not going to switch. Here's my problems with Opera:

#1: It isn't availible on all platforms. I use Firefox because it works on all my computers, and the less switching of interfaces the better. The only way to run Opera on OpenBSD (my laptop) is through Linux emulation (buggy).

#2: Not as extensible. Firefox has more extensions than anything else.

#3: Opera renders many pages poorly. Many that work fine on Firefox, Safari and IE look like crap on Opera.

On the plus side, its fast. And it is free of charge, like every web browser.
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #48 on: 27 June 2006, 21:49 »
you should complain that restricting you
violates soem law and make them stop that !
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #49 on: 27 June 2006, 23:43 »
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#1: It isn't availible on all platforms. I use Firefox because it works on all my computers, and the less switching of interfaces the better. The only way to run Opera on OpenBSD (my laptop) is through Linux emulation (buggy).

I would be nice if they made it open source or even sharred source that way you could compile it yourself.

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#2: Not as extensible. Firefox has more extensions than anything else.

Each to their own on this one, I personally have never needed any extensions in Opera. Extensions are one of the things I don't like about Firefox, for it to even half suit me needs I'd need to install lots of extensions, these take up more memory, slow it down and are often buggy causing it to become unstable.

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#3: Opera renders many pages poorly.


Wow, I think even Mastertech may have had a point here! Opera is probaly one of the best browsers as far as rendering standards are concerned (it passes the Acid2 test which is more than can be said for Firefox). Firefox has many Netscape specific non-standard features that many websites have been designed to cater for so they don't render wel in Opera, it's even worse with pages designed for IE. As Mastertroll rightly said a webrowsers support for standards has very little to do with webpage compatability, however as least I include the all important standards debate in my disscussion.


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Many that work fine on Firefox, Safari and IE look like crap on Opera.

Shit I think you've got me here, well maybe not. You're aware that both IE and Firefox have specific features that the web as been designed around (well more the former than the latter but you get the point) but what about Safari? (you may ask), Well Safari (or so I've heard) is probably the best for standards (it was the first to pass the Acid2 test) and it wouldn't suprise me if it has kind IE and Netscape emulation to make it more compatable, I don't know.

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On the plus side, its fast. And it is free of charge, like every web browser.

All good, I also like the download manager and zooming features.
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #50 on: 28 June 2006, 06:39 »
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Firefox has many Netscape specific non-standard features that many websites have been designed to cater for so they don't render wel in Opera
What "non-standard features"? XUL? I wish. FF supports web-standards well and then supports some IE-only stuff too. Opera does the same I'm sure, but they don't do it as good.

If you look through this you'll find there are parts of CSS supported by FF and not Opera and vica verca.

FF has very good support for W3C standards. It even has support for one or two (well I think one) things from XHTML 2.0 which is still a working draft (but almost undoubtedly will become a recommendation). (both Opera and FF support some things in CSS3 which is also a working draft, but I don't think Opera support anything from XHTML 2.0 yet)
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #51 on: 30 June 2006, 06:40 »
I like extensions. I've got 29 running right now. It allows you to have the functionality you need without the functionality you don't.

Also, Opera was designed to pass the acid2 test, while Firefox just added support wherever they thought it needed. Really, they both support standards about equally well, but I've noticed Opera doesn't handle mixes of old & new standards too well. I'd add a link, but the only ones I can think off atm would get me banned :).
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Another reason:
#4: Themes. I have not seen the ability to use themes in Opera (or IE, for that matter). I like black japan, but it makes me paranoid.

 [OFFTOPIC]I wish FF would let you change themes w/o restarting. I mean, trying out new themes is a pain in the :mad::eek::fu:, if you know what i mean.[/OFFTOPIC]

Overall, Opera is decent, but I prefer FF. Each to his own, though, as long as it isn't IE.

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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #52 on: 2 July 2006, 22:59 »
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#4: Themes. I have not seen the ability to use themes in Opera (or IE, for that matter). I like black japan, but it makes me paranoid.

Opera has themes. Just look under tools -> appearance and there you'll see a theme manager(called skins in Opera) that allows you to switch themes without restarting your browser. I have around 5 themes right now.
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #53 on: 3 July 2006, 00:31 »
I see naked people :8

and it doesn't matter whether it's on Opera or firefox...

Strange 6th sensory powers?
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #54 on: 3 July 2006, 02:31 »
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Also, Opera was designed to pass the acid2 test, while Firefox just added support wherever they thought it needed.


I don't really see what your point is, other than trivia.

It's not even right.

Opera wasn't designed to pass the acid2 test.  It wasn't designed to pass the acid 1 test.  Opera predates BOTH of those tests.

And people seem to forget that Safari/KHTML was the first to kick ass on the ACID2 test.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid2
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #55 on: 3 July 2006, 22:32 »
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I see naked people :8

and it doesn't matter whether it's on Opera or firefox...

Strange 6th sensory powers?

You wonder if that's good or bad ... are they old and do they look like  ancient, moldy, dried up rasins ? Like in most nude beaches in Europe ... ? Or could they actually be good looking ? Nah, good things never happen here ... it must have been a dream
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #56 on: 3 July 2006, 23:51 »
Thanks for the imagery, Tex, I can die happy now.
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #57 on: 4 July 2006, 18:42 »
Glad to be of help :D ... if you want even clearer imagery go there yourself
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #58 on: 12 July 2006, 22:10 »
for those who haven't seen opera crash, a few minutes on this page should do the trick ;)

still no word from anyone about that "vulnerability" btw.............. amazing.
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Re: opera 9 is out
« Reply #59 on: 7 August 2006, 05:07 »
well opera 9.01 was released a few days ago and they didn't fix this thing, oh well.

(btw opera needs an update system like firefox's)
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Macintosh amends a damned around the requested typewriter. Macintosh urges a scarce design. Macintosh postulates an autobiography. Macintosh tolls the solo variant. Why does a winter audience delay macintosh? The maker tosses macintosh. Beneath female suffers a double scum. How will a rat cube the heavier cricket? Macintosh calls a method. Can macintosh nest opposite the headache? Macintosh ties the wrong fairy. When can macintosh stem the land gang? Female aborts underneath macintosh. Inside macintosh waffles female. Next to macintosh worries a well.
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