Is this the car for you?

[cahult]

http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/p-vallee-chantecler.html

To me it looks like a giant blueberry.

[worker201]

http://www.microcarmuseum.com/tour/p-vallee-chantecler.html

To me it looks like a giant blueberry.

Maybe Europeans can get away with this sort of car.  But with a top speed of 75kph, you'd be mega-roadkill in Texas.

[Lead Head]

Maybe Europeans can get away with this sort of car.  But with a top speed of 75kph, you'd be mega-roadkill in Texas.

How would this fair in Texas?

[Jack2000]

cousin IT had a car just like that one
except for the modifications and it was white

[Orethrius]

How would this fair in Texas?

Top Speed: unknown

Oi!  Just because it tested off the charts, that doesn't make it unknowable.  
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[KernelPanic]

I can't believe that 93 RON fuel is considered 'Premium' in the States.
Here we get ~95 as standard, and Japanese fuel is more still.

But I suppose you pay a helluva lot less, and efficiency isn't your big thing ;-)

[worker201]

How would this fair in Texas?

I bet that thing gets about 0.2 miles to the gallon, and only carries 2 gallons.  That wouldn't even get you to the fuel station.  Hell, that wouldn't get you to the end of many people's driveways!

Tux:
Low grade gasoline causes fuel system problems.  Fuel system problems dramatically shorten the life of the car.  Ergo, low grade gasoline makes Americans buy more cars.  Interestingly enough, if you put the higher grade stuff in, it will also fuck up your fuel system, leading to the same conclusions.

Note that this may have nothing to do with the actual fuel content of the gasoline - American fuel contains added ethanol and other assorted anti-pollutants.  Plus, many companies put "fuel system cleaners" in their gasoline.  You never know exactly what you're getting.

[KernelPanic]

Note that this may have nothing to do with the actual fuel content of the gasoline - American fuel contains added ethanol and other assorted anti-pollutants.  Plus, many companies put "fuel system cleaners" in their gasoline.  You never know exactly what you're getting.

I think nearly all fuels contain detergents and lubricants these days, even supermarket fuel (which incidentally is often sourced from different suppliers week-to-week, or month-to-month.).

The big boys like BP, Shell, Texaco use these 'extras' to differentiate and promote their wares to end users. As it happens it's not bullshit.

I read a magazine last year that investigated different fuels, the findings were that the detergents in Shell's Optimax do actively clean your engine and can be beneficial to performance and efficiency if you use a full tank of it every month or so.
They also said that you pretty much get what you pay for with fuels and a brand name would generally beat a Walmart fuel for the same Octane.
More interestingly they said that fuel quality is most of all dependant on freshness, with a newer fuel being cleaner (absorbed less atmospheric crap and degraded less) and much more efficient.
Where do you find fresh fuel... busy forecourts... ie. Supermarkets at the weekend :-)

[worker201]

In the US it is difficult to find fresh fruits and vegetables (that stuff at the supermarket is garbage).  Just imagine how difficult finding fresh gasoline must be!

[Jack2000]

;]
go to a samller country
and/or grow u'r own
good thing i do not have too look
far for god fruits and vegs

[H_TeXMeX_H]

Maybe Europeans can get away with this sort of car.  But with a top speed of 75kph, you'd be mega-roadkill in Texas.

So you're saying Texans drive fast ... not here they don't ... or if you mean drive 55 mph ... well fuck that ... everyone here knows 70's the real limit or 80 or 90 ... it kinda depends on the day ... 90 on Fridays ... 70 on Mondays ... or maybe 20 on Mondays (traffic)

[Pathos]

my wheels one day ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBR600RR

[pofnlice]

American Cars are typically engineered for 92 octaine. The larger engines usually require higher octane fuels...obviously sports cars and luxury cars would.

Oddly enough, I live in England and have yet to see a 95 octane standard...I've seen it sold as premium though. In texas I used have a choice of 89 - 97 octane. And, yes, I bought a gallon for less than Europeans pay for a liter (the translation right now is about $8. a gallon, argue that, it cost 6 pounds to fill a one gallon fuel can). Anyway...

American cars thouggh be gas guzzlers and larger are coming a long nicely as far as efficiency. As far as durability, they have always been competative. Before everyone goes waving their fingers at SUV's, remember there are plenty of European motor companies who make gas guzzling sports cars and SUV's as well. You can't blame the American Manufacturers for supplying the market with what is selling. They just don't sell like that here.

As far as those two cars go....I would have to see how many times I could roll them with a side impact from a Peterbuilt....

Worker201... About the fruit and veg...
      I would kill to be able to stroll through the farmers markets again and get fresh fruit and veg, not to mention a nice loaf of Mrs Bairds White sandwich slice bread...Come over here with me for a while where things are seasonal and there are some things you just can't get...(unless you want to pay triple what they're worth). Or better yet, live in Korea for a while, you will never complain about TEXAS produce ever again.

[worker201]

Worker201... About the fruit and veg...
 I would kill to be able to stroll through the farmers markets again and get fresh fruit and veg, not to mention a nice loaf of Mrs Bairds White sandwich slice bread...Come over here with me for a while where things are seasonal and there are some things you just can't get...(unless you want to pay triple what they're worth). Or better yet, live in Korea for a while, you will never complain about TEXAS produce ever again.

I was in South Africa a few months ago.  Had some really awesome apples.  Then I went to Madagascar, and had some really awesome apples.  Then I went to India and had some really awesome apples.  Then I came back to the US and had some really shitty apples.  I don't know what else to say.

So you're saying Texans drive fast ... not here they don't ... or if you mean drive 55 mph ... well fuck that ... everyone here knows 70's the real limit or 80 or 90 ... it kinda depends on the day ... 90 on Fridays ... 70 on Mondays ... or maybe 20 on Mondays (traffic)

75 kph = 46 mph.  Try going 46 mph on a Texas freeway.  You'll be lucky if you live.

[Laukev7]

Or better yet, live in Korea for a while, you will never complain about TEXAS produce ever again.

Someting tells me you didn't like the food in Korea.