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Problems upgrading Ubuntu
Aloone_Jonez:
Whatever, but I thought that the whole point of Ubuntu is to make it easy for people, remember it's supposed to be "Linux for human beings" well I know this is shit, it's Linux for geeks, which is the way it always will be.
Also an auto-update thingy that pops up when I start my computer then fails is a prime example of buggyness. Either you make it easy to use or you don't, none of this "omg we're going to make an auto-update tool that normally works fine for normal updates but the user will have to fuck around a lot when an OS upgrade is required" shit.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez ---Whatever, but I thought that the whole point of Ubuntu is to make it easy for people, remember it's supposed to be "Linux for human beings" well I know this is shit, it's Linux for geeks, which is the way it always will be.
--- End quote ---
Yea, it'd be so much friendlier if it was based on NT :rolleyes:
Report a fooking bug if you find one.
Ubuntu is very fucking user-friendly my friend.
Ubuntu 6.06 download page btw.
H_TeXMeX_H:
I dunno try Fedora ... it's worked pretty decently so far and it's quite user friendly (probably more than Ubuntu). I know it has recieved a lot of negative comments, but it's actually not that bad. I was thinking of installing something a bit more complex, like maybe Arch Linux (cuz it's opitmized for i686) but upon reading the manual for a bit it looks like it'll take a shitload of time to get it right (much like Gentoo, Slackware, etc.).
I can re-install Fedora in 20 min flat if necessary (and maybe 30 min more for updates depending on your connection speed and the number of packages you chose)
from: archlinux.org
--- Quote --- What You Will Need
* a working knowledge of Linux and your system, esp. your hardware
* Arch Linux installation media (see the mirror list)
o Either the Arch Linux Install CD, or
o 2-7 floppy disks, depending on what you need: SCSI, ethernet, etc.
* an i686-based computer (PPro, Pentium 2 or higher, Athlon/Duron, etc. Note that AMD K6, Transmeta Crusoe, CyrixIII, and VIA-C3 NOT supported.)
* some time to kill
--- End quote ---
Really the only thing I could ask more of from Fedora is a bit more reliability ... but most reliability problems I've had so far were actually cuz things weren't quite configured properly ... SELinux being the main culprit, turning SELinux off will make Fedora just as stable as any other distro, and much easier to use, upgrade, re-install (if necessary) etc.
worker201:
Trying Fedora won't solve AJ's problem. His problem is probably that his apt isn't configured properly. This happens to everyone every once in awhile, it has happened to me too. So even if he installs Fedora and uses synaptic or smart, it's probably going to get fucked up one day, like when a certain version of apt is incompatible with a certain repository that the distro requires, or something like that (I think my problem occurred during the FC3-FC4 upgrade). It would be so much better for him to figure out how to solve it. Tossing a distro if it has a minor problem like this is like buying a new car after your friend vomits in your front seat.
Although I am not a Ubuntu guru (I'm barely a Ubuntu user), I suspect that AJ's apt problems are being sugar-coated by the gui - it doesn't give him any useful information, just a failure notice. That's one of the drawbacks of trying to hide everything from the user. If you want things to work, you have to have useful feedback and you might even have to get your hands dirty.
pofnlice:
Ubuntu uses synaptic for the Iconified and automated system updates/upgrades.
Apt-get is ever-present as well.
When they released 6.06 LTS, they announced the repositories were different and the way Ubuntu works is slightly different as well.
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