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Do store bought PCs suck, or just Compaq, other?
piratePenguin:
--- Quote ---and uses it until it goes to hell.
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I WISH! They use it until it looks like it's gone to hell, but really only the software is (Windows + malware).
maybe a reason so few OEMs ship computers with GNU/Linux preinstalled is that, is they ship GNU/Linux the computers won't get malware etc, so the people will wait longer before they buy a new computer, and them being greedy bastards don't want that.
Fucking everybody upgrades their computers too early, I use my computer more than 95% of people, do more CPU intensive tasks than 95% of them (subtract the gamers.. I just don't understand them at all) (estimations..), and my Athlon XP 2600+ w/ 256Mb ram that I built over 2 years ago (IIRC) for
GenuineAdvantage:
Of course, that's what I meant by going to hell. Windows mucking up.
edit: because I misunderstood something.
But anyways, the truth is MS isn't going anywhere. It will dwell on disposable store PCs like cockroaches no matter what happens.
worker201:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---maybe a reason so few OEMs ship computers with GNU/Linux preinstalled is that, is they ship GNU/Linux the computers won't get malware etc, so the people will wait longer before they buy a new computer, and them being greedy bastards don't want that.
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That's only part of the equation. Another part is support. Let's say Compaq began selling laptops with Fedora Core pre-installed (forgetting the fact that Microsoft would punish them for this). If something were to go wrong, the Fedora Group/RHL takes no responsibility. Contrast that to Microsoft, who takes responsibility for their OEM installations. Ignore the fact that Microsoft support doesn't ever go beyond "reinstall". At least they have an obligation to the purchaser and to the vendor for support (even if it is only the illusion of support). The only way to get this from Linux is to install an enterprise Linux, which costs a shitload of money, making it a bad idea for consumer consumption.
All of this may mean shit to you or me, but it is something that Compaq and Microsoft and the Fedora Group take very seriously. That's
one reason you don't see too many Linux boxes at consumer retailers.
H_TeXMeX_H:
I went to Fry's a while ago and saw tons of distros for sale ... they had (as far as I can remember):
Slackware, Redhat, Suse, Mandriva (I think), a number of other distros and FreeBSD.
I was kinda surprized, and they even had a Mac games section.
GenuineAdvantage:
--- Quote from: worker201 ---That's only part of the equation. Another part is support. Let's say Compaq began selling laptops with Fedora Core pre-installed (forgetting the fact that Microsoft would punish them for this). If something were to go wrong, the Fedora Group/RHL takes no responsibility. Contrast that to Microsoft, who takes responsibility for their OEM installations. Ignore the fact that Microsoft support doesn't ever go beyond "reinstall". At least they have an obligation to the purchaser and to the vendor for support (even if it is only the illusion of support). The only way to get this from Linux is to install an enterprise Linux, which costs a shitload of money, making it a bad idea for consumer consumption.
All of this may mean shit to you or me, but it is something that Compaq and Microsoft and the Fedora Group take very seriously. That's
one reason you don't see too many Linux boxes at consumer retailers.
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It's funny you say all this because the responsibility I see from MS about their OEM crap cakes matters diddly to an individual. Will MS replace anything or even give you a free Winblows CD right away if something goes wrong? Well maybe I've been missing the boat, but I've never seen that happen. And don't forget that many, if not most OEM windows machines just come as is, with no backup disk. I've never taken a system to have it fixed by MS. I don't even know anyone that has. My guess is that if it's not most now, it will get there quick. So with this situation, responsibility from MS to a PC buyer equals nothing. Windows is there because it's there and because MS is the boss, not because PC sellers and their customers are afraid to lose the illusion of support. Illusion is right, you said it.
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