Why I can only use iexplorer to browse the internet?

[Darkheim]

I work for a major national company...and i access the net mostly from work...everything was great, till they decided to change the os on the net server from redhat to win2k. So, now, everything is going in/out through a new proxy/firewall...the problem is that now i can only use iexplorer to access the internet...any other browser or program won't work...even if i set the correct proxy adress and firewall. Any ideas?

[suselinux]

quote:Originally posted by Darkheim:
I work for a major national company...and i access the net mostly from work...everything was great, till they decided to change the os on the net server from redhat to win2k. So, now, everything is going in/out through a new proxy/firewall...the problem is that now i can only use iexplorer to access the internet...any other browser or program won't work...even if i set the correct proxy adress and firewall. Any ideas?

Don't slap me, but you could put Red Hat back on.

In opera

click file quick preferences

then at the bottom choose identify as MSIE6 (Microsoft Internet Explorer 6)

I think the same can be done for Mozilla.

[zoolooo]

Best ask someome at work.

Then you can point out the problems with IE, like shit security see

That's general MS problems, click the IE logo for specific IE stuff.

They'll probably say they use IE for security reasons, good time to tell them it's the wrong sort of security reason. hahahaha!

BTW... why did they dump RH for Win 2000?  I'm serious here and would really like to know.

zooloo

[ShawnD1]

sorry to tell you Linux guys this but you can't always win by being right. he's just an employee, he can't make the company change back to Redhat just because he asks they change it back and he won't convince them just by saying IE is extremely insecure. companies simply don't care about security if the program they are going to have to sacrifice support.
the company probably switched to Windows because Microsoft always provides excellent tech support for companies. although their guys suck ass for helping the average customer, their company tech guys are very effective because MS knows most of its money comes from big companies.

as an answer though, Opera is the way to go because it can identify itself as IE. i can't seem to find anything like that in Mozilla but that doesn't mean it's not there  

[xyle_one]

the preferences toolbar for mozilla will let you identify as IE. it will also let you disable java from the toolbar, or turn off images, pop-up windows. its pretty much essential to run mozilla (IMO).
Preferences Toolbar Mozilla

[NM]

I'm in a similar predicament
Its been so damn long since I've used that f*cker (Mmm, Mozilla), I forgot what pop-up ads were and that I probably shouldn't go onto less than legitamate websites.

[jtpenrod]

quote:sorry to tell you Linux guys this but you can't always win by being right. he's just an employee, he can't make the company change back to Redhat just because he asks they change it back and he won't convince them just by saying IE is extremely insecure.

Well fine. If his dumb-ass employer wants him to use IE, then, by God, he should use IE.     And so should every other employee. That way, the company's systems will be so lousey with WinVirii, ad-ware, spyware and all that other lovely garbage that IE attracts like a magnet, that they'll be begging to reinstall Red Hat in no time.      
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[ShawnD1]

yeah basically  


one thing i've always wondered about companies is why they don't put Norton Antivirus on all of the computers. Norton has a thing that scans all incoming and outgoing email for scripts/viruses/trojans. Norton has alerted me several times of a virus attachment. although i have attachments disabled in Outlook (to check hotmail), Norton still alerted me that the virus was there.

you probably can't even count the number of times one of your dumb ass co-workers gets a virus and says something stupid like "well how the hell was i supposed to know it was a virus, it said i love you on it and the attached file was named i_love_you.exe"

[Darkheim]

quote:BTW... why did they dump RH for Win 2000? I'm serious here and would really like to know.

Yes, they dumped redhat for win2k...weird, huh? They said win2k servers are more secure, reliable and 'user friendly'..rofl  
And yes, I think one of the reasons is that Microsoft provides excellent tech support for big companies...if something's wrong, our dumb sysadmin is just calling the tech support...

[LordWiccara]

why dont you apply for system tech and reinstall linux and laugh in M$s face

[realist]

quote:Originally posted by Darkheim:

They said win2k servers are more secure, reliable and 'user friendly'..rofl  

That's not a reason, that's a spurious claim with no basis in fact. If they could say how and why it was more secure than Linux, that would be a reason. But there are two reasons why this won't happen. Because if they did come out with reasons, chances are Linux developers would fix the problems quickly, making that expensive win2k purchase look really embarrasing, and also they can't openly say any reasons why win2k is more secure, because no such reasons exist. They should go with OpenBSD if they want security.
 

quote:And yes, I think one of the reasons is that Microsoft provides excellent tech support for big companies...if something's wrong, our dumb sysadmin is just calling the tech support...

That's not a reason either. I think you should come in early one morning and leave a severed horse's head on your system administrator's desk with a little post it note saying simply "Excuses, Excuses", do it daily and after a few days he will either give in or resign. I promise.

[HibbeeBoy]

quote:Originally posted by ShawnD1:
yeah basically    


one thing i've always wondered about companies is why they don't put Norton Antivirus on all of the computers. Norton has a thing that scans all incoming and outgoing email for scripts/viruses/trojans. Norton has alerted me several times of a virus attachment. although i have attachments disabled in Outlook (to check hotmail), Norton still alerted me that the virus was there.

you probably can't even count the number of times one of your dumb ass co-workers gets a virus and says something stupid like "well how the hell was i supposed to know it was a virus, it said i love you on it and the attached file was named i_love_you.exe"

The thing about Norton is that you are only as safe as your last update. It's pitiful. It's the e-mail client (Lookout Express or Lookout 2002) is the problem. In my opinion, we shouldn't need a license for Norton (or any other redundant virus checker)the e-mail client and the OS should not allow scripts to run amock on the machine. Keeping the PCs clean and stable is a full time job. A bogus job at that.

[HibbeeBoy]

quote:Originally posted by ShawnD1:
the company probably switched to Windows because Microsoft always provides excellent tech support for companies. although their guys suck ass for helping the average customer, their company tech guys are very effective because MS knows most of its money comes from big companies.

Don't make me laugh !!! Oh my sides !!

  :rolleyes:

[jtpenrod]

quote:Yes, they dumped redhat for win2k...weird, huh? They said win2k servers are more secure, reliable and 'user friendly'..rofl
And yes, I think one of the reasons is that Microsoft provides excellent tech support for big companies...if something's wrong, our dumb sysadmin is just calling the tech support...

Nobody could be that fucking st00pid. I guarantee you that the real reason they ditched Red for Win 2K servers is because they fell for MS's bogus claim that Win 2K is sooooooooooo easy to administer that you don't need "those geeks" (read: IT specialists who actually know what they're doing.) to administer the system. Why, just look at that purdy GUI, the point 'n' click simplicity, yada, yada, yada: do your own admin.    :rolleyes:  

And that's how Code Red, Klez, Nimda, Fizzer, and those other script kiddie worms spread half way around the world in a matter of hours, from one Win server to another. All "administered" by untrained dumb-asses who were "assured" by Microsoft itself that it is so easy it makes real sys-admins irrelevant.      So go ahead, pink-slip all those nerds who actually know a thing or two about computers. Save a bundle!

Believe me, they're gonna get precisely what they have coming. When that happens, tell them to get a MSCE (Minesweeper Consultant, Solitaire Expert) to fix it for them.                  
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[ May 21, 2003: Message edited by: jtpenrod ]

[TheKnifeThrower]

Too bad microsoft don't release their ultimate secure version of IIS which they use for their own servers (the one with all the code from linux and apache in it).