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Nero for Linux!!!!!!
H_TeXMeX_H:
Well, other than they are one of the ones who caused the problems you are talking about in the first place and now are making you pay for them to fix the problems they caused ... nothing.
yahurd:
--- Quote ---I like the program, but it's the only one that I've used with Windoze that actually consistently works. I'm sure that there are lots of other ones out there for Linux, and once again, it's purely up to the individual to decide what he or she likes.
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well its a utility, which says it all, linux has EVERY UTILITY IMAGINABLE,utities make up roughly 90% of foss
--- Quote ---So can we do a comparison ... what can nero do that k3b can't ?
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fuck up every iso ive tried to burn, so much i ordered ubuntu(ah my first trip to linux), other than that IDENTICAL
--- Quote ---My problem is that we're getting huge throngs of users that neither know nor care of the history of why Torvalds made the Linux kernel and why Stallman continues to push open-source for it. The entire platform is about freedom, both of choice and of knowledge, and attempts by corporations to port applications to it without bothering to release the source should always be seen as a failure of the model. It is, quite literally, a slap in the face to everyone that ever worked to create FOSS alternatives because the proprietary vendors were too selfish to release their source specifications in any form.
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i went to linux through ubuntu, and the technical design but later ventured to be a foss-fanboy in about a month, so its a good thing that vendors are considering linux but, i doubt a cd app is going to push throngs over to linux
--- Quote ---There again why should people switch to Linux for wanting freedom, why can't they switch because they prefer it to the alternatives?
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i sort of agree, honestly, did YOU orethrius come because of free as in freedom, free as in beer, or technical differances?
gael duval switched for free as in beer
--- Quote ---Were some of these products to be airplanes, you can bet the FAA would be dealing with an epidemic of crashes this very moment. God forbid Windows should ever make it onto a Boeing in anything but an entertainment center.
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its in more places than you think ive seen bsoded atms and terminals at airports so lord knows it may be but airport makers probobly dont want a bsoded plane so it may be linux embedded
--- Quote ---As far as the argument about proprietary software vs open source...well, that's to the individual to decide.
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nay, because proprietary is sometimes a way to hide stolen code *cough*microsoft*ahem* we cant have "protection" for coders this way without protected code-stealing arsebags who claim they innovated, once again,*cough*microsoft*ahem*
--- Quote ---But you can still only see what's on the surface.
Do you know how secure the foundations are?
Are you sure that the walls underneath all that plaster are strong enough?
Can you be certain that there are no cockroaches nesting between the floorboards?
How do you know it isn't haunted? Well you get the idea.
Very few things that you buy are totally open everything from the firmware in your, PC, TV mobile phone, pocket calculator to the design of your motherboard; they are all closed.
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thats what you need the code for!
--- Quote ---nero on linux. who cares? i use xcdroast because when i moved to linux it was at least as good as nero. it's not the same but fuck it, linux isn't the same as windows.
and i agree that people should want to use windows because they want freedom, but you have to realise that more and more people want to use linux because it's cool.
those people probably also think that distributing serial numbers for proprietary apps is cool. they have less ability to ratiocinate than the traditional linux using crowd, but if linux *is* to move ahead, perhaps these types will have to be welcomed and possibly pandered to.
EDIT: PS pofnlice is 100% right. for years on these very forums we've been saying if you want your programs on linux natively (rather than under wine for instance, mostly this is in response to the old "my xxx games don't run in linux" chestnut), then write to the vendors to package it for linux. now they start doing it, people complain?
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that used to be me! i used to be like that but a wine-ubuntu combination brought me to being such a foss fanboy, ive started to resemble stallmen
so more apps for linux is definitely great!
piratePenguin:
--- Quote ---Very few things that you buy are totally open everything from the firmware in your, PC, TV mobile phone, pocket calculator to the design of your motherboard; they are all closed.
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That's still shitty, and I will likely support any efforts to produce, in a community rather than corporate manner, to build free....anything.
Upheaveling proprietaryness, in this world.. very respectable.
worker201:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin ---That's still shitty, and I will likely support any efforts to produce, in a community rather than corporate manner, to build free....anything.
Upheaveling proprietaryness, in this world.. very respectable.
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Some things can't be free. Much of the development of our beloved Linux is actually paid for by firmware, hardware, and software products. If everything was free, we'd go back to having just community members doing the work. That wouldn't be so bad, but we wouldn't see the rapid progress of the past few years anymore. So a few things actually have to be paid for. It's just a question of what. I think I can live with proprietary calculators as long as Firefox can remain free, know what I'm saying?
piratePenguin:
--- Quote ---Some things can't be free. Much of the development of our beloved Linux is actually paid for by firmware, hardware, and software products. If everything was free, we'd go back to having just community members doing the work. That wouldn't be so bad, but we wouldn't see the rapid progress of the past few years anymore. So a few things actually have to be paid for. It's just a question of what. I think I can live with proprietary calculators as long as Firefox can remain free, know what I'm saying?
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Firefox isn't free ;)
I think I get what you're saying but I wouldn't agree. First of all I mean free as in freedom ONLY - I would still pay for a free calculator. I don't know of a free (hardware) calculator that meets my needs, so I've a very proprietary one. Secondly.. It's a two way street. Releasing the secrets of how the things we pay for work could well lead to much MORE rapid development, too. I wouldn't be quick to cop out either way, I didn't in what I said in that post. It's just how I feel.
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