Reasons not to use Windows...

[gnomez]

My brother is a big Windows fan, and he says that you guys are a bunch of hippies who don't use Windows just because its run by a big company that pushes people around.  He says Windows is the best OS and while Microsoft may have done some bad things they still provide the best computing solution by far.    If anyone wants to convince him otherwise, post here your reasons you think Windows is bad or why Linux, Mac, or another platform is a better solution, either from an end users's point of view or from a technical standpoint.

PS Don't talk about how bad Win 9x/ME is because he agrees it is buggy and full of memory leaks and security holes too     Your reasons have to be leveled at 2000/XP.  After all, attacking Win 9x for stability problems would be like me attacking Mac OS 9 for having poor multitasking when OS X has superb multitasking.

[psyjax]

Hmmm...

GUI wise, not necesserly multitasking, Windows is severely flawd over MacOS:

http://www.digiserve.com/eescape/mac/Death-of-a-Thousand-Stings.html

Death of a thousand stings, this article has been mentiond thrughout the forum.

Also, there is little we could tell you that is not in the latest fetured article by the guys at KMFMS.com . Check out all the crap M$ riped off.

Furthermore, M$ dosn't have the end user in mind at all. They care more about money than creating a good product. Think of the new product activeation rules.  Last time I heard when you bought something you were supposed to own it and the makeres have no right to check up on you.

M$'s software is inferior to it's alternatives. MS  Office is overbloated tripe. Why not use several of the free variants or AppleWorks on the Mac which provides all of the same functionality with no bloat.

Security on both XP and 2k is a joke. We all know about the NSA and CIA keys as well as all the gaping holes in the system. Windows in general is a virus trap.

And let's not get in to the argument that this is due to popularity. The fact is that UNIX based systems are infact quite difficult to write virii for.

UNIX based computers are based on an ever growing and changing open source platform. This makes the system organic as it constantly evolves freely and in to new unexplored areas. M$ can't compeate with the army's of developers behind UNIX/Linux and as a result ALL of it's OS's are nothing more than patched up hacks.

NT and 2k BTW have shown tale-tel signs that M$ has infact incorparated aspects of FreeBSD.

M$'s ethics are fucked up. They look to crush competition and steal all of their products and force it on people.

M$ dosn't respect peoples freedoms and seeks to monopolize every information medium from TV to the Internet. More importantly have been it's practices squarely aimed at dominating the key information pipelines the net provides. .NET anyone?

They want to crush open source not by defeating it thrugh competition and inovation but thrugh FUD tactics and actual desception. Read some of the post's in this forum for details.

M$ is on the warpath to destroy GNU and GPL. Why? Because they are a clear threat to their market dominance considering that they produce a non-corpret free entety that creates software that rivals and surpases their own.

M$ is going so far as to actually attempt to outlaw open source.

I dunno.. the list goes on and on.

If you wan't a specific OS which I think is excelent I have to once again say OS X. It provides the stability of UNIX and probably the most elegant and well designed GUI in the world. Plus it's core is open source and every day I see more and more developers coming to the platform. Not necissarly big companies but little free software types from the UNIX/Linux world.

Maybe we are idealistic Hippies. But I would rather live in a world were ideals and dreams are still valued rather than the shallow cold capitalist hell M$ would rather have us encased in.

[Brent]

Garden Knome.. Not too long ago, you posted a very informative and interesting narrative called "dispersing the linux lies"  You seem to have completed a miraculous 180 degree switch and reading your posts now, anyone would think you have been a linux advocate and "minister of the gospel" for ages.  Im really curious.  Was there some amazing revelation that occurred, were you struck by a bolt from above, simply got caught up in the hype or saw some kind of a vision..???
Really a very quick turnaround......Not intended to be insulting.  Im just very curious.

[Brent]

Send me some of that stuff you have been smoking X11 it must be REAL good!!
You forgot one.
*X11 fell on his head.

[gnomez]

average user, about what caused my "turn around," read what I say in the post "why my next computer won't be a mac" in the mac forum.  It is a long post and I don't want to wear out my toes typing it again.

[gnomez]

Also I'm not exactly a "linux advocate" yet; I think that Linux does many things better than Windows but Linux has many problems particurally in the desktop area, but I still like it better than Windows.  Windows XP is almost as much a memory hog as KDE.  Furthermore, if people continue to support Linux for desktop use then things will greatly improve there, just as they have in the server area.  What I really advocate is that people use another OS besides just Windows before they go bashing Mac, Linux, etc.

[gothwer]

quote:Bill Gates funded El Queda (Probably)
 

Slave! We'll see about this:

More stable: I haven't crashed yet in 3 months on win XP. I dont know what you do to your computer to crash it so much. (Probably put holes in it).
Free: Linux is only free if your time is worthless. Unless your a Debian Dweeb who tweaks his computer 24/7.
Bugs: I haven't found a bug except a minor keyboard one that happens a few times that wont let me type in my password. Dont get me started on the vast array of linux bugs you get when you pull the SuSE CDs right out of the box.
Bill Gates: I dont care about Bill Gates. I care about Windows, it doesn't matter what HE does. And i'm sure he doesn't do any of that "stuff", due to the fact you are a liemaster.
Linux kicks ass!!!: You will feel the sting of the lash across your pitiful shoulders.
Netscape looks better than IE: What in the name of God are you smoking? Crack/Hash/LSD? Netscape is as ugly as Bin Laden soaked in rat feces. And its slow too.
Linux can handle up to 16 ethernet cards: Um.... why?

Therefore, I have dashed your mere dreams of Linux against the harsh rocks.

You must be lashed until you drop.   :mad:

[Brent]

GARDEN GNOME  I read your MAC post. Very interesting.. I looked at Macs and was very impressed with OS X.  Until they told me the price.......... then I just about shit.  I build every computer I use, and also build them for friends and relatives. Something you cant do with a MAC.

[gnomez]

Yes, average user, that is one of my main reasons for not buying a Mac.  I don't like Mac's closed proprietary hardware any more than Microsoft's closed proprietary software.  I don't really care if they release OS X for intel, but AT LEAST let me build a mac from scratch!  I can't find a place that will sell me a g4 motherboard anywhere!

[psyjax]

quote:Originally posted by Garden GNOME:
Yes, average user, that is one of my main reasons for not buying a Mac.  I don't like Mac's closed proprietary hardware any more than Microsoft's closed proprietary software.  I don't really care if they release OS X for intel, but AT LEAST let me build a mac from scratch!  I can't find a place that will sell me a g4 motherboard anywhere!

GARDEN gnome...

I think it is possible!!! I remember a fellow posted in the mac forum a long while back about how he went about building a G4. Dig in there. If I recall corrctly he managed to knock a good deal of the price off and come out with a nice machine... I will post the link here if I turn it up.

That Cocain Elephant guy is a bit of a Troll, I'd really wish he would endevour to make a more intelegent comentary (hint hint) as you did in your "dispersing the Linux lies".

WOW! I just checked in the forum and the threads only go back so far. The post is gone! Who was it that posted the article, if your still on here who ever you were, Id like to check that post out again... darn that sux  

[ April 05, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]

[Brent]

Now that is something I would love to get into.. If I could get ahold of a G4 mobo and build my own Mac!!!  AnY!! info anyone can give me on this would be much appreciated!

[psyjax]

quote:Originally posted by average user:
Now that is something I would love to get into.. If I could get ahold of a G4 mobo and build my own Mac!!!  AnY!! info anyone can give me on this would be much appreciated!

I remember the dude said he snaged some of the more propriatary parts off of eBay and canabalizing older Macs. You can find butcherd Mac bit's on eBay and in other places.

Then he got the rest of the parts thrugh the usual channels and riged it all up and got it working. He got the case off of eBay too. It was an 800Mhz G4 but it was running in a 450Mhz Yosemity case, pretty cool.

I was thinking, Apple gets even their proprietary part's tailor made by various 3rd party manufacturers. For example, Apple included an IBM harddrive on my computer, and alot of other components are manufatured by Mitsumi and fujitsu. maybe it's possible to actually buy the part's from the supplier.

Building a Mac has allways been a hobby project amongst users, one fellow built one into a wooden chassie that he built himself because he coulden't find a suitable case    .

[Druid]

quote:Originally posted by psyjax:



Building a Mac has allways been a hobby project amongst users, one fellow built one into a wooden chassie that he built himself because he coulden't find a suitable case        .

Or you could use Lego

Compubrick 6100

Very customizable, and easy to modify if you need more drive bays, or cooling    

Druid

[ April 07, 2002: Message edited by: Druid ]

[Calum]

quote:WOW! I just checked in the forum and the threads only go back so far. The post is gone! Who was it that posted the article, if your still on here who ever you were, Id like to check that post out again... darn that sux  

no, you can see all the posts by changing the settings in your "My Profile".
By default it's set to 45 days, but you can set it to show all posts like i did.
Also, there was a fairly recent post in the mac forums too, about a company that builds custom macs with new insides but 'classic' exteriors at a rate of one or two a month, did you see that one?

[Master of Reality]

yay!!!, i am completely MS free! (on this computer)