Author Topic: Kids, its time we had a little chat about the facts of floride.  (Read 1173 times)

Kintaro

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This is the wikipedia page of fluoride, and it will tell you that for a start there are many different types of fluoride and some are more lethal. Also it will tell you a recorded level for death is 4 grams is documented for the common type.

The Melbourne Water website tells you the concentration where I am, and it will be much the same in America and anywhere they do it. The concentration is between 0.7 and 1.2 mg/L, with the optimum concentration being 0.9 mg/L.

Those are milligrams, which is a thousandth of a gram, to get just one gram of fluoride at lets say, 1mg/L, near the optimum level they attempt to achieve you would need to drink 1000 liters of water, which you are not capable of doing. Just a few liters of water can potentially send your salt table out of balance and you will die from that.

EDIT: corrected my metric faggotry.
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That Wikipedia page makes very little mention of skeletal fluorosis, which is a crippling disease in India and China.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeletal_fluorosis

The page above lists the average fluoride content of water in the US at 1ppm, and gives 4ppm as a toxic level, suggesting that fluoride levels in US water should be lowered.  On the other hand, skeletal fluorosis, one of the most dangerous consequences of fluoride toxicity, is very rare in the US.

FYI, a milligram is 1/1000 of a gram, and to get 1 gram you would have to drink 1000 liters of water with a concentration of 1mg/L.

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oh, my error there

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but there's flouride in your toothpaste as well, is this likely to push it up to a dangerous level? also what about the "free" flouride tablets they give to primary school kids each day?
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Kids in your country get free fluoride tablets? Absolutely nuts.

There's a warning on toothpaste for kids below the age of six, that clearly states that parents shouldn't let their kids swallow any of the toothpaste.

And adding fluoride to drinking water? That's fucking insane. I'm glad my country doesn't do it.

Here's what the evaluation report of Belgium in 1995 had to say about the subject:
Quote from: Hoge Gezondheidsraad
We have concluded that:
  • Fluoride isn't an essential trace element.
  • Fluoride has a limited safety margin.
It has been decided that:
  • Fluoride cannot be added as a supplement by default.
  • Products that do contain fluoride must clearly state this on said product
Further guidelines for food, water and toothpaste:
  • A permanent check on the maximum number of 0,25 mg fluoride per day that can be administered to children under the age of two.
  • The dosage of fluoride in toothpaste cannot be higher than 0,5 mg per day, for children between the ages of two and twelve.
  • Fluoride supplements for pregnant women manufactured or administrated is strictly forbidden.

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The concentration is absolutely tiny, and to make a further point I have been drinking fluoridized water my entire life, brushing my teeth, and I am not dead. Is that good enough evidence?

Idiots like ******** refuse to ********** because of this, ***********. He is willing to condemn himself to life long ********** over this shit!

I doubt toothpaste has much of a concentration either, and I doubt much actually enters your body unless you don't follow clear directions and eat the fucking toothpaste.

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If what you're saying about (...) is true, that's pretty stupid of him.

However, if I drink water from the tap, I want water and nothing else. I'm glad my government doesn't add it. They stopped doing that in the 50's.

Also, that's you're still alive, even though you drank fluorinated water all your life, doesn't mean you can't get serious health problems. Why add it? Why the extra trouble for something that's maybe beneficial for teeth health.
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I don't agree with it, I'm just trying to put a stop to gross alarmism of mind control and genocide that I am even seeing in the media.

The biggest risk, and proven risk, is that equipment can malfunction and put in too much fluoride which has lethal results.

******* lost the plot ever since ***************, because of fears of ********* as usual. Maybe we should host an intervention :p!

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If we're on that subject, are conspiracy theorists having mental problems, and are they off their prescription drugs?

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I don't think they all are. You meet a lot of conspiracy nuts these days in the gimp house though, and if they're not anti-establishment they're pro-theocracy or just quiet and leave you alone. Last trip I had to the gimp house involved this arabic dude trying to tell me Islam was based in science (lol).