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I'm moving back to Opera!
Aloone_Jonez:
Why not attach it?
I've just tried Chromium for Linux and it seems really good. It has extensions, including Adblock. The Adblock isn't as good as Firefox's, some elements appear then vanish and I've only managed to find one extension that blocks annoying content link and even then it didn't block it completely, the blue link appears, it just doesn't pop-up then the mouse is moved over it. From what I've gathered this is an inherent flaw in Chromium rather than any of the three extensions I tried. I hope it gets fixed soon because it's putting me off using it at the moment.
https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom
It's faster than Firefox apart from on some ad-infested pages which take slightly longer to load the elements then hide them and it seems to do a better job at loading IE-only sites. Best of all it's open source which will keep the FOSS fanboyz happy.
I've come to the conclusion that WebKit>Gecko, it just seems lighter, faster and the fact that most WebKit browsers pass the Acid3 test seems to suggest better standards compliance too.
Aloone_Jonez:
Here's a site which doesn't render correctly in either Firefox or Opera but it works perfectly in Safari and Chrome for Windows. It also breaks in IE 8, unless the compatibility mode is turned on. I've yet to try it under Linux.
http://www.quranicpath.com/
EDIT:
The site got fixed.
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez on 10 January 2010, 20:39 ---
--- Quote from: piratePenguin on 10 January 2010, 19:37 ---A gaping question for me to you Aloone is, on your own day to day browsing of the web are you actually experiencing less rendering issues on Opera than on Firefox? This is the only question that needs to be answered when it come to rendering engine support from the users point of view.
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I don't get very many rendering issues with either browser so I haven't notice much difference.
It's just something I noticed when looking at a few the supposedly IE-only sites on the list with Opera. Some of the sites didn't work on Firefox or Opera so I decided to use UA switching (both in Opera and in Firefox, using the extension) to spoof IE. The result of my very unscientific test I noticed that Opera generally did a better job of rendering sites that actively block it. Chrome also did a good job at rendering some IE only sites, although I didn't try UA spoofing because I didn't know how/if it's possible.
--- Quote ---Bear in mind that here's a webpage we've forgotten to bring up: the microsuck homepage. edit: guess that applies no more?
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I lately discovered that it was a problem for all browsers. The animated gif with fireworks had been replaced with "{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C}" in between me visiting this site with Firefox and Opera.
--- Quote ---Firefox doesn't do user agent switching for websites that deliver different content based on UA string, it doesn't have developer-written site specific style sheets saved to work around the problem on a page-by-page basis, it has instead simply become as far as I know, the best at the best for rendering IE hacks over the years in getting to where it is, and if it fails somewhere, click Help > Report a Problem on a misbehaving page.
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Opera doesn't do anything clever like automatically switch the UA according to the site, you need to do that yourself. It also has the facility to report broken sites to the developers.
--- Quote --- If it's an actual problem for Firefoxes webpage support, I'm sure someone will fix it for the four hundred million or so users*.
One webpage can be wrong.
* Firefox has 24.72% market share according to Wikipedia, and there are 1.7 billion internet users according to http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm
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For a start there are many different measures of browser market share and since when did that make a difference to quality? Internet explorer has over four times Firefox's market share, it must be better. ::)
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You're still this immature?
goddamn
Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin on 11 January 2010, 20:19 ---You're still this immature?
goddamn
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Why are you calling me immature?
I'm not the one who started name calling.
reactosguy:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin on 11 January 2010, 20:19 ---You're still this immature?
goddamn
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Typical reply to Microsoftist evangelists.
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