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piratePenguin:
Everyone close to me I know on a mac I've needed to show how to install applications, more than once sometimes. (People are retards)

I'm not claiming Ubuntu is perfect (I just said it suits a lot of peoples needs out of the box), and I'm sure it has plenty of things to iron over. (But I don't keep track anymore)

bedouin:
Why the hell is Dell still shipping their Mini 10vs with Ubuntu 8.04?  At first I thought some hardware was unsupported in newer versions, then I installed 9.10 and everything was perfect.  Lame many companies claim Linux support then do it so half assed no one will bother with it again.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: bedouin on 12 February 2010, 16:15 ---Why the hell is Dell still shipping their Mini 10vs with Ubuntu 8.04?  At first I thought some hardware was unsupported in newer versions, then I installed 9.10 and everything was perfect.  Lame many companies claim Linux support then do it so half assed no one will bother with it again.

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8.06 would be the latest long term support release
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS

--- Quote ---LTS is an abbreviation for “Long Term Support”.

We produce a new Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server release every six months. That means you'll always have the latest and greatest applications that the open source world has to offer. Ubuntu is designed with security in mind. You get free security updates for at least 18 months on the desktop and server.

A new LTS version is usually released every 2 years. With the Long Term Support (LTS) version you get 3 years support on Ubuntu Desktop, and 5 years on Ubuntu Server. There is no extra fee for the LTS version, we make our very best work available to everyone on the same free terms. Upgrades to new versions of Ubuntu are and always will be free of charge.

The LTS designation applies only to specific subsets of the Ubuntu archive. The LTS may not apply to all editions and remixes of Ubuntu. For example, for 8.04 LTS, Kubuntu chose to move to KDE 4.0 and didn't issue an LTS release. In 10.04, the Netbook Edition will not be an LTS. The project will decide which editions will be LTS early in the LTS development cycle.

The two LTS releases so far are DapperDrake and HardyHeron. The next LTS release will be LucidLynx, released in April 2010.


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10.04 in 2 months will be a long term support release, so I guess dell will update to that when it comes out (I'd expect it to be pretty soon since they're working with canonical (apparently, I've no idea how this dell-ubuntu thing is going atm. I was expecting to see an ubuntu choice for more dell computers, but I didnt))

You should have been able to do a system upgrade to 9.10. This was risky business in ubuntus earlier days, but I hope thats sorted now (I believe it is).

bedouin:
Yeah, but you can't go from 8.04 to 9.10 without going to 9.xx whatever first.

I did that but just felt like -- ehh, I don't want any leftovers around let me just start from scratch.

What's super lame is if you choose Linux the price doesn't subtract the cost of a Windows license. 

Lead Head:
Long term support means that Canonical will provide Dell - and therefore its customers with long term support. Well after the initial software was released. Its the best way to go to ensure compatibility and reliability from an OEM perspective. One Ubuntu releases their next LTS edition Dell will most likely start shipping systems with it.

Like I said in another thread, I don't think any flavor of Linux will really be a viable alternative to ship PCs with from an OEM standpoint until Microsoft stops offering kickbacks and incentives for remaining "loyal".

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