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jarrodatt

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« on: 26 January 2003, 23:18 »
Hello,
     Question, I'm an avid windows user both xp pro, and 2000 server. I was wondering if someone could let me know which is the best and easiest os to have/use for a dedicated server not just windows any os. I need to setup a domain with email support, www, ftp, etc....

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« Reply #1 on: 26 January 2003, 23:44 »
redhat i would consider the easiest. Don't get me wrong, you have some learning to do. But if you are looking for a serious server windows isn't the right path. check out http://www.linux.org and read around there.

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« Reply #2 on: 27 January 2003, 02:48 »
If you want an integrated server solution, you can also hit up apple.com and order an XServe running Mac OS X Server (Unlimited license!).

OS X is UNIX underneath, and very friendly on top. It's very much a Macintosh. XServe can also run Linux.
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« Reply #3 on: 27 January 2003, 02:52 »
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Originally posted by Jimmy James: Mac Commando:
If you want an integrated server solution, you can also hit up apple.com and order an XServe running Mac OS X Server (Unlimited license!).

OS X is UNIX underneath, and very friendly on top. It's very much a Macintosh. XServe can also run Linux.



the much better solution if you can afford it, my suggestion was the free one.

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« Reply #4 on: 27 January 2003, 05:00 »
I disagree. It is not a much better solution. I would use Linux in any situation for a web/ftp/mail/etc server. You should never see what is on top on a server anyway. OSX may be a better choice for a desktop if you can afford a Mac but I totally disagree for an internet server. There is a buttload of server software out there for Linux that hasn't entirely been ported to OSX, and even if it was, why spend the money when you will not have a better solution?
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« Reply #5 on: 27 January 2003, 05:12 »
A lot of people don't have the time or patience to learn something. And lets face it... who wants to go diving into sendmail.cf? You can get a lot of nice utilities to help you for linux. You can get a book and learn how it works. Or if you have the money you can get OS X Server. I prefer linux, I never liked macs. I'm just saying it'd probably be easier for him. As far as functionality, I think what he asked can be done with the mac, so finding ported software shouldn't matter.

Don't take my word for it though, I've never used anything higher than OS 9 (i think it was 9) and never a mac server. From my experience I can only recommend linux, but I would try the mac if I could afford it.

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« Reply #6 on: 27 January 2003, 05:38 »
If you have had experience with setting up OSX as an internet server you would likely find out that you have the exact same things to deal with that you do in Linux (except more because of not fully ported software and less people running it in such a situation). Just because you pay more money doesn't mean what you attempting to accomplish is going to be easier or better.

There's not much to setting up sendmail. Most distributions are configured for what you need out of the box, at most adding a param or two to the sendmail.mc file. Same with Apache, imap, pop, ftp, etc, etc. It's certainly not rocket science, as a matter of fact it's stupid simple. And you certainly are not limited to Sendmail, there are several mailers out there. And what do you think you'll be running on OSX? Likely the same services.

Hell, most likely if you are a n00b you are going to want to install Webmin even on the Mac to configure these services, in which case it doesn't matter whether the underlying OS is Linux/OSX/BSD/Solaris/AIX/etc. In webmin it all looks pretty much the same. So again, don't waste the money if you are going to run a web server, you will gain absolutely nothing and probably lose out on quite a bit.

Now, if you want to discuss destop systems I won't argue with you over that. I would imagine that people might have an easier time with OSX in that regard and spending the money may be beneficial to them depending on what their needs are.

[ January 26, 2003: Message edited by: void main ]

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« Reply #7 on: 27 January 2003, 06:02 »
If you want a free solution and have the time to learn things, go with Linux.

If you have $1000 + Any recent mac or 3k XServe (Unlimited client OS and Hardware) and/or no time or patience, then go with OS X Server (XServe)

If you do have the money to spend, go with the XServe. You get the flexibility of UNIX and the ease of use.

[ January 26, 2003: Message edited by: The Muffin Man ]


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« Reply #8 on: 27 January 2003, 06:06 »
You mean I can just order an OSX server and not have to learn anything? I can just stick it out there on the net and and not have to configure it?
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« Reply #9 on: 27 January 2003, 07:17 »
Uhh......Thanks people for the suggestions,
Of course I'm a pool white man working hard for a livin and not sucking off money from the state. So buying a new mac is out(dont care for them anyway). I have linux mandrake 9, red hat 7, and lindows(does anyone know about this one anygood).

I kinda liked linux. However, the command lines oh my good, I really flaked out, its alot to learn, anywhere I can learn this. Oh I'm not that good at it I need laiman terms.......  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #10 on: 27 January 2003, 07:58 »
err i suggest u burn that lindows CD (and i mean burn as in flames and heat and shit)