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Kintaro:

--- Quote from: Calum on 14 May 2010, 10:57 ---no, you googled "having troubles with linux from scratch".

It's a pretty obvious difference, and i think if a person is incapable of seeing the difference between "linux from scratch" and "having troubles with linux from scratch" then, yes, they should probably stick to ms windows.

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Why are you even entering a discussion about something far beyond your own understanding about computers? I don't think you are capable of contributing anything useful to a technical discussion due to you being rather useless with the inner workings of linux. You don't know anything about Linux from scratch. The fact is that LFS is a complicated mess to get doing anything useful on desktop.

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: Kintaro on 14 May 2010, 12:17 ---
--- Quote from: Calum on 14 May 2010, 10:57 ---no, you googled "having troubles with linux from scratch".

It's a pretty obvious difference, and i think if a person is incapable of seeing the difference between "linux from scratch" and "having troubles with linux from scratch" then, yes, they should probably stick to ms windows.

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Why are you even entering a discussion about something far beyond your own understanding about computers? I don't think you are capable of contributing anything useful to a technical discussion due to you being rather useless with the inner workings of linux. You don't know anything about Linux from scratch. The fact is that LFS is a complicated mess to get doing anything useful on desktop.

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Any idiot that tries to build Linux From Scratch is doomed to have trouble with it. But if you're patient, willing to learn and you want to spend hours for a few days building a system that probably won't be safe to use for longer than a month, go ahead. I learned a lot that way.

But if you want to start somewhere really useful, let me suggest learning Conary, learning about rBuilder Online and everything about it's developer rPath. Why apt and yum and all that shite haven't died yet is beyond me. I said years ago Conary was the best package manger EVER EVER and the competition is just the same. If you want to unleash a monster on the world learn Conary and produce a good distro based on it.

yourlife:
I can't argue, Linux From Scratch failed every time I tried making it, and GCC build was a complete bitch. I can't even count the error messages. And GRUB also made me feel like nuking someone. Very simply, it would be easyer ripping Mac and dealing with getting sued than building LFS

piratePenguin:

--- Quote from: yourlife on 14 May 2010, 18:05 ---I can't argue, Linux From Scratch failed every time I tried making it, and GCC build was a complete bitch. I can't even count the error messages. And GRUB also made me feel like nuking someone. Very simply, it would be easyer ripping Mac and dealing with getting sued than building LFS

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Well, I assure you there is something causing those error messages. And it is probably one thing that is wrong with the system or with what you are doing that is causing "too many error messages to count". This is almost always the case, so there you go, you're already learning new things about software and compiling and binaries and compatibility.  If you continue down the LFS path and adopt a different attitude, figuring out whats wrong you will eventually know almost everything about all of those things.

The first thing I learned about Linux is Retry doesn't work, your only options are Abort and Figure It Out  8)

Seriously, LFS isn't for everyone. And if you wanna make a useful OS you'll find it's an entirely different problem to building LFS. You need to start with a package manager, and if you learn conary you'll be able to package your own operating system tomorrow (that's what rBuilder Online is for), and if you learn it well you'll be able to change any detail, and provide your users the absolute best experience in package management, ever. Conary should be ported to Windows, OS X, and be the industry standard way to distribute software. Cannot speak highly enough of it (and I haven't used it in about 2-3 years).

yourlife:
rBuilder = Annoying notice saying "Created by rBuilder", I don't want that at all, also I want to tweak linux right down to stupid things like the default wallpaper or the login screen etc etc

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