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Fedora 13 out today
Lead Head:
I'm not sure how easy it is to modify a partition that is in use. I'd probably just reinstall it and reformat it all properly.
Kintaro:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez on 26 May 2010, 22:57 ---I've never had any problems with it.
Anyway John, I thought you loved Fedora and the amount of shit I used to get from you when I was anti-Redhat?
By the way, is it possible to burn a DVD so it's bootable and still be able to add extra files to it?
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#1: Things change, Red-Hat used to be a lot nicer. I started using Linux on Red-Hat 7.0 and brought 7.1-9.0 from Red-Hat. I really hated 9.0 as it added nothing. Also, apt-get for RPM came out which made using a RHN subscription for updates was obsolete.
#2: This is why OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and other real operating systems include the bootable part of an ISO as a seperate file to which mkisofs can add the files (downside with OpenBSD is you make your own ISO, upside with OpenBSD is you can easily customize the installer). You'll want to do something along these lines, you might even be able to chop off the bootable part of the ISO with dd, or just manually make it bootable later with the DVDs own syslinux config or whatever.
Kintaro:
--- Quote from: Refalm on 26 May 2010, 22:06 ---Not really. With Fedora, you get a distribution that's as fast as Debian, and still easy to use.
It's the best as a corporate desktop, and it's good as a home desktop as well.
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I think it just comes with being old, I've been using Linux since I was 13. I find debian the easiest Linux for me. This is because it doesn't do things for me, and with Ubuntu I've noticed the biggest hardware wall are things like my ancient X800 GT ATI graphics in my Linux box. Ubuntu doesn't seem to automatically work with it and enabling the restricted driver would break it. Using debian I just built the damn kernel module myself with ATIs one-size-fits-all package and it worked immediately. The former method was supposed to be easy, but it didn't work, the latter doesn't sound easy to most but for me being a very familiar thing to do, it turned out that it was easier. The Linux Box is actually used by the computer-illiterate that visit my house (girlfriends, family, friends, whores) and they have no troubles with it simply because the computer is almost impossible to break. It had Windows on it but I put Linux on it to save myself a lot of work.
I'm going off-topic there a bit. I wouldn't mind Fedora so much because like Debian everything would be nice and familiar if Fedora didn't seem so utterly bloated. Doing the same things on my debian sid (unstable) laptop which also has the newer gnome, etc, I find it uses far far less memory than other operating systems. I've not used Fedora in a long time but it bothers me just how much ram everything uses doing the same things. It worries me with any of the big distros.
Aloone_Jonez:
My be you're right Kintaro.
To be honest I'm pretty disappointed, it just seems to be so slow, much slower than Windows XP. It takes ages to boot, uses far more memory and CPU do do the same thing, on a fresh boot it uses 245MB as opposed to 186MB on XP and things just seem to take longer to happen, for example resizing a window is jerky and on XP it's smooth and the CPU shoots up to nearly 100%.
This is fucking ridicules, Gnome system monitor uses 25% to 28% CPU just to sit there displaying the graph of CPU usage and when I move the mouse the CPU shoots up to 60% before stabilising at 50%.
Perhaps the graphic acceleration isn't working, again?
I had similar problems with my old motherboard an chipset but it seems too much of a coincidence.
The sound doesn't work either.
I don't see why I should reinstall, just to set up a swap partition, I'm going to try repartitioning. I would've thought, it would just use the existing swap partition on my other hard drive, it's only 517MB so is undersized but it would've been better than nothing.
Another thing that's pissed me off is that it's not installed the bootloader on my primary drive but just replaced the one on my other drive which means I can no longer boot into Fedora 12 which is the sort of thing I expect from Windows.
Kintaro:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez on 27 May 2010, 10:41 ---My be you're right Kintaro.
To be honest I'm pretty disappointed, it just seems to be so slow, much slower than Windows XP. It takes ages to boot, uses far more memory and CPU do do the same thing, on a fresh boot it uses 245MB as opposed to 186MB on XP and things just seem to take longer to happen, for example resizing a window is jerky and on XP it's smooth and the CPU shoots up to nearly 100%.
This is fucking ridicules, Gnome system monitor uses 25% to 28% CPU just to sit there displaying the graph of CPU usage and when I move the mouse the CPU shoots up to 60% before stabilising at 50%.
Perhaps the graphic acceleration isn't working, again?
I had similar problems with my old motherboard an chipset but it seems too much of a coincidence.
The sound doesn't work either.
I don't see why I should reinstall, just to set up a swap partition, I'm going to try repartitioning. I would've thought, it would just use the existing swap partition on my other hard drive, it's only 517MB so is undersized but it would've been better than nothing.
Another thing that's pissed me off is that it's not installed the bootloader on my primary drive but just replaced the one on my other drive which means I can no longer boot into Fedora 12 which is the sort of thing I expect from Windows.
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I can't do magic so it will always use a lot of memory. However if you build a new kernel with these options it will be a lot less jerky and more responsive.
Under processor set the preemption model to 'preemptible kernel" if it isn't already, and scrolling down from that you will see TIMER_FREQENCY, set that to 1000hz. Also while you are at it you might want to select your processor from the list at the top.
Rebuild and install that kernel and you will notice the difference.
Also its easy enough to use a loopback for swap in the mean time.
dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=1024 (for a 1gb swap file)
mkswap /swapfile
swapon /swapfile
you can even be really really lazy and add that last line to /etc/rc.local
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