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Aloone_Jonez:
--- Quote from: Calum on 17 June 2010, 19:04 ---Grow up, read my full post and formulate a reply. i'll be waiting.
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What do you mean grow up? I'm not the one who resorted to childish name calling.
For the record your commend didn't offend me, I've just debated things with people who behave like that before and it inevitably goes nowhere so I thought I'd not waste my time on it.
If you want to continue the discussion, review your post, remove the silly name calling and I'll respond to it.
Calum:
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez on 17 June 2010, 20:30 ---
--- Quote from: Calum on 17 June 2010, 19:04 ---Grow up, read my full post and formulate a reply. i'll be waiting.
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What do you mean grow up? I'm not the one who resorted to childish name calling.
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my namecalling wasn't as childish as your presumptuousness.
--- Quote ---For the record your commend didn't offend me, I've just debated things with people who behave like that before and it inevitably goes nowhere so I thought I'd not waste my time on it.
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that's your prejudice, not mine, so you deal with it. You fail if you think this discussion would have been a waste of time.
--- Quote ---If you want to continue the discussion, review your post, remove the silly name calling and I'll respond to it.
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how about this, see if you can get over yourself for a minute to actually read what i said WITHOUT me having to pander to your outmoded opinions about acceptable language.
Calum:
--- Quote from: piratePenguin on 17 June 2010, 20:00 ---Huh? This discussion is not about ownership (which seems like a meaningless idea when discussing music, if you think about it from a perspective outside this world we grew up in (and getting into that perspective is the key thing for this discussion)), it is about rights. We either allow artists the right to set terms that limit sharing (imo, a theoretical cap on society), or we allow people - everyone, the right to share with their friends, or anyone, the music and digital art that they enjoy.
Currently (clearly), the former is the case. But additionally currently people think they understand that this is necessary to result in the volume of artists we have. But I think all of this is so unfounded, even unthought out. People (e.g. we had Kintaro's views earlier) grew up in a digital world where sharing was prohibited mostly, and they can't understand a civilized world where everyone is allowed to share. (how funny is that, actually?)
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it is about ownership, and it's much more complicated than you seem to be saying. Unfortunately i thought you would see where i was going with this. I haven't got a lot of time at the moment or i'd do another big long reply. you'll just have to make do with me saying it's more complicated than that for now, though, sorry.
worker201:
--- Quote from: Calum on 22 June 2010, 17:56 ---
--- Quote from: Aloone_Jonez on 17 June 2010, 20:30 ---
--- Quote from: Calum on 17 June 2010, 19:04 ---Grow up, read my full post and formulate a reply. i'll be waiting.
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What do you mean grow up? I'm not the one who resorted to childish name calling.
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my namecalling wasn't as childish as your presumptuousness.
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LOL
piratePenguin:
--- Quote from: Calum on 22 June 2010, 17:59 ---
--- Quote from: piratePenguin on 17 June 2010, 20:00 ---Huh? This discussion is not about ownership (which seems like a meaningless idea when discussing music, if you think about it from a perspective outside this world we grew up in (and getting into that perspective is the key thing for this discussion)), it is about rights. We either allow artists the right to set terms that limit sharing (imo, a theoretical cap on society), or we allow people - everyone, the right to share with their friends, or anyone, the music and digital art that they enjoy.
Currently (clearly), the former is the case. But additionally currently people think they understand that this is necessary to result in the volume of artists we have. But I think all of this is so unfounded, even unthought out. People (e.g. we had Kintaro's views earlier) grew up in a digital world where sharing was prohibited mostly, and they can't understand a civilized world where everyone is allowed to share. (how funny is that, actually?)
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it is about ownership, and it's much more complicated than you seem to be saying. Unfortunately i thought you would see where i was going with this. I haven't got a lot of time at the moment or i'd do another big long reply. you'll just have to make do with me saying it's more complicated than that for now, though, sorry.
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Well, I think you're full of shit with this reply, sorry.
Please explain who owns this post I'm writing, and why I should own copies of this post. I clearly said above that in my opinion this is a meaningless concept when applied to1s and 0s, and that considerations should revolve around rights, and then your response is that ownership is what this is about. That doesn't fucking cut it. Is there any wonder I can't "see where you are going"? (keep believing that. btw, there was nothing about your previous post that I hadn't heard before, except your aside about stereotypes, which is one of the silliest things I saw on this forum ever, but, this is my aside and lets not stay off the point)
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