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analyzer:
DOS - great, considering they didn't even code it
WIN 3x - excellent, considering they stole the idea from Apple. Maybe Bill shoulda did acid like Steve did. They mighta came up with an original idea.
WIN 95 - They musta smoked cracked when they made this piece crap. Start menu was a great innovation, considering Mac has always had a File Menu
WIN 98 - THE COLORS, DUKE, THE COLORS!!! Still blows dogs for quarters
WIN 2000 - a giant leap towards the future
WIN ME - a giant step back. Why the hell didn't they just add the family friendly convenience of 98 with the stability of 2000?
WIN XP - Oh, know they fucking listen, the fucking pricks. Now Im fucking stuck with the fucking Millenifucking Edicktion. They can fucking get down and fucking get busy on my sweaty fucking sack before I shell out for XP.
WIN XP warez - A friend has had it over three months. Hasn't crashed yet. Fucking MacOSX rip-off desktop is annoying but easy to get rid off. Constant software registration is shitty move on their part. I'll download it anyway.

<Emjarrh>:
I love the way that UNIX users call Unix a "real OS" and everything else as just junk.  I've used Linux and MacOS before; though they're nice, they just don't have a big enough user/program base (specifically, Linux/Unix).  Yeah, yeah, you'll tell me that there's fifty million apps out there and tons of ports, but I've used these so-called apps, and there are some cases when I'd just rather have user friendliness and skip out on the ultra-powerful mainframe crunching features.  

Personally, i have an avid dislike of anything to do with Mac; that's probably based more on elementary school than any more recent experience with the system  

And, seriously, if all you can call Windows XP is "FP", then maybe you've only taken a look at what, the box?  Screenshots?  Have *you* actually tried the system out?

VoidMain, perhaps we're just looking at this from two different perspectives.  I know that a huge majority of webhosting is done with Unix, and I can totally appreciate that (I mean, even Windoze users have to use FTP sometimes, and that's completely Unix-based), but I think that for the vast majority of users, Windows Anything (well, except for ME, possibly) is the better choice.  Okay, so they've got a monopoly.  Okay, so their user support base sucks.  Okay, so they charge tons of money for something that should be a lot cheaper.  But for the last ten years I've been pumping $ into Microsoft products like a kid with a roll of quarters, hoping for something good, and I have to say that Windows XP is worth it!  If you don't like the kiddy interface, turn it off!  

Anyway, hopefully I've offended nobody with this last post, and I want to apologise if I did with the one before this... VoidMain, I appreciate your civility... I didn't really deserve it, tho     Peace.

voidmain:

quote:Originally posted by <Emjarrh>:
I love the way that UNIX users call Unix a "real OS" and everything else as just junk.
--- End quote ---


I didn't say UNIX is a "real OS" and everything else is just junk.  I just said "Microsoft OSs" are junk.                     Hey, the only reason I am so fed up with MS is because I have so much experience with them. I try to use something else wherever possible. I work more on the server end of things so it's still pretty easy to use something other than MS in this area.

I'm not necessarily biased because of the software itself, but more because of how the software comes about, the tactics of the company and the man that heads it. I fear the day when there is *only* a Microsoft, then where will the prices and motivation for innovation be?  If it weren't for Apple, IBM, Xerox, HP, Mosaic, BSD, and many many other companies and EDU projects to come up with the ideas there wouldn't be a Windows.  Every time another OS comes out with an innovation, Microsoft has to pump out a new OS to keep up.  Now that benefits you does it not?  What if there were only Microsoft?  Nuclear winter comes to mind...

Not only that, but I make about 3-4 times as much being a *NIX engineer than I can being an MCSE. MCSEs are a dime a dozen.  Speaking of MCSE, how great are those certifications?  Every time MS pumps out a new OS your MSCE cert is worthless until you cert on the new system.  Tell me this isn't an MS scam!  It's better than sending out those chain letter spams.

And by the way "FTP" is not completely UNIX based.  It's part of the TCP/IP RFCs, specifically a tool provided by any OS that includes the TCP/IP protocol for utilizing the "ftp" protocol (if that OS chooses to follow the standards).  Of course it was initially developed in UNIX.  And Microsoft wouldn't even be on the internet without TCP/IP (I suppose that was their innovation too huh? Nope, UNIX, but one might think that stellar, ahem,  protocol NetBEUI was a Microsoft innovation, nope, reaped from IBM).

Another reason I hate MS is they completely ignore standards.  Standards are put in place to make operating systems work well together. Microsoft ignores the standards groups and either twist standards or ignore them completely.  They do this for their ultimate goal in ruling the world.

I choose to stop using MS products after using them since DOS 3.x.  I choose to believe that every MS OS is inferior. I also choose to do these things not based on what I hear, but based on my direct experience with MS operating systems, which is extensive. I choose to make my beliefs known on this site known as "fuckmicrosoft.com". I can't think of a site that would be more likely to share my views.

Now if in the future MS takes a similar path that Apple is doing and put their nice shiny UI on top of a real OS I would likely become a supporter (if they don't screw it up). Since Mac has done it maybe there is hope, they like to steal everyone elses ideas. But I doubt they will for one reason. 1) It would make them more interoperable with other OSs and they don't want to play with others.  Their goal is to wipe out all the others until there is only one.  I have to admit that their method for going about this task has been brilliant.  Get the desktop market first and brainwash all the users.

And no, you certainly haven't offended me. I can't imagine I would have offended you (unless your last name is Gates, Balmer, or Allen).

Hey, this is fun.          

[ December 15, 2001: Message edited by: VoidMain ]

killerangel0101:
6 =  needs to go hell and never come back  
5 = Poor
4 = Crappy
3 = Shitty [A bit more crappier than crappy]
2 = What the fuck were they smoking?
1 = What happened to my stores of drainO?
-inf = Typical...
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win95 5 poor
win98 5 poor
winme 5555555  this worse  OS I EVER USED IN MY LIFE
win200 5 poor i hope burns
winxp =5 = 6

Druid:
If  0=total waste of HD space
and 5=excellent, stable, intuitive (and non-existent)
then:

Win3.1  = 1, awful interface
Win95   = 1, lacks stability
Win98SE = 2, most compatible, tends to crash
WinNT4  = 1.5, if I had a

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