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M51DPS:
quote:Originally posted by Sauron: Troll Warrior:
Now would you have EVERY other computer company do this.
Apple(who has a VERY VERY VERY large patent portfolio)
IBM(Patent thing, strong legal team, has sued many smaller compnies out of existence)
Novell(VERY VERY secretive of the NetWare source code, hance an extreme lack of drivers and security holes, said to be more secure than even OpenBSD)
and EVERY other computer company.
and two of those three were convicted of anti-trust charges.
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It's hard to say that, because I really like Apple, but it needs to happen. If we just declare all patents public domain, and get rid of the crappy system, things will get a lot better. Let's see it happen.
Laukev7:
No.
solarismka:
quote:
Novell(VERY VERY secretive of the NetWare source code, hance an extreme lack of drivers and security holes, said to be more secure than even OpenBSD)
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Yep, its said to be secure than OpenBSD. However OpenBSD IS secure than Netware or any other computer company out there and not just by what was 'said.'
Only one remote hole in the default install, in more than 8 years!
www.openbsd.org::
http://www.insecure.org/sploits/netware.perl.nlm.html
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22remote+exploits%22+%22novell+netware%22&btnG=Search&meta=
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=%22remote+exploits%22+%22openbsd+3.5%22&btnG=Search&meta=
:D
skyman8081:
http://developer.novell.com/research/appnotes/2000/june/03/a0006032.htm#1033269
notice how OLD the sploits you poated are?
Netware is up to 6.5 and you're posting venerabilities for 4.1?
thats like calling XP insecure over C:\con\con
both equally as old.
by the way:
http://www.guninski.com/obsdmtu.html
solarismka:
quote:Originally posted by Sauron: Troll Warrior:
http://developer.novell.com/research/appnotes/2000/june/03/a0006032.htm#1033269
notice how OLD the sploits you poated are?
Netware is up to 6.5 and you're posting venerabilities for 4.1?
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Yea, sorry about that. I guess I should of checked the version.
quote:
thats like calling XP insecure over C:\con\con
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Well, yea XP is insecure over C:\con\con.
both equally as old.
quote:
by the way:
http://www.guninski.com/obsdmtu.html
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And here is the patch:
ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/patches/3.4/common/011_ip6.patch
http://openbsd.org/errata34.html
Fixed in 2004! Not years later.
Novell Netware 6.5::
quote:
04.15.36 CVE: Not Available
Platform: Novell
Title: Novell Plaintext Information Storage Weakness
Description: Using Console One, DsBrowse, iMonitor and iManager the
value of the "nsimhint" attribute of a user object can be seen in
clear text. An attacker with sufficient privileges to view the
affected user object attribute may access some sensitive information.
Novell NetWare 6.5 and Nsure Identity Manager 2.0 are known to be
vulnerable.
Ref: http://search.novell.com/NSearch/HighlightServlet?&query=10092410&index=Support&bbindex=BestBets&numhits=20_=&theme=support&encoding=UTF
8&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsupport.novell.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fsearch%2Fsearchtid.cgi%3F%2F10092410.htm
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http://www.google.ca/search?q=%22Novell+Netware+6.5%22+%2B%22exploits%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&start=10&sa=N
I find both novell and openbsd VERY good OS'es and both as extreamly secure. The difference between these OS'es and Microsoft is the fact that M$ knows jack about OS'es and lots about PR and advertising.
Well, even though PR and adds can be flashy and entertaining. It isn't goingto do much good when someone needs a good OS.
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