XP and its stability... yeah right

[mobrien_12]

Had to reinstall XP on my boss' computer for the second time this year.  #**&$&% registry got corrupted and there were numerous filesystem errors on the supposedly bulletproof journaling NTFS.  It wouldn't even let me repair the system. It wanted to wipe the c:\windows directory and start from scratch,  erasing all the drivers and settings... for a corrupted registry!!!  I finally found an old registry backup and was able to repair the system.

"XP is stable"... well I sure havn't seen it.  Glad I use linux.

[Bazoukas]

The last thing I wanna do is  troubleshoot for windows.


   I feel your pain.

 I laughed my ass of when at college a kid was doing AutoCad work and Win2k froze on him.

  He went CRAZY.

[lazygamer]

WinXP is generally more stable from my personal experiences, but even I, without having months put into Linux, can tell that Linux is more stable.

I've noticed that I've gotten some dumbass crashes for no explainable reason while configuring certain things, but at least it doesn't take the system with it or fuck up the GUI etc.

[hm_murdock]

the classic Mac OS, while relatively crash-happy, was still *more stable* than XP.

Remember, stability has more to do than just crashing. When the classic OS, or a UNIX goes down... you restart and continue on your way. With Windows, if it goes down, it might not get back on its feet.

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by The Jimmy James:
the classic Mac OS, while relatively crash-happy, was still *more stable* than XP.

Remember, stability has more to do than just crashing. When the classic OS, or a UNIX goes down... you restart and continue on your way. With Windows, if it goes down, it might not get back on its feet.

And most of the times you don't have to restart in OS X or Linux or any other *NIX clone. You just press Command+Option+Esc in OS X or xkill in Linux and you force quit the program that crashed    while in windows you have to restart and keep your fingers crossed  

[Ice-9]

Not entirely true    
While I love to be able to xkill an app, all M$ Os'es based on the NT kernel have a quite effective Ctrl+Alt+Del + task manager (not like that joke of a 9x kernel).
Not to forget Dr. Watson who calls home to tell M$ which pr0n site you were visiting when Internet Eradicator exploded.

[ October 08, 2002: Message edited by: Ice9 ]

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by Ice9:
Not entirely true      
While I love to be able to xkill an app, all M$ Os'es based on the NT kernel have a quite effective Ctrl+Alt+Del + task manager (not like that joke of a 9x kernel).
Not to forget Dr. Watson who calls home to tell M$ which pr0n site you were visiting when Internet Eradicator exploded.

[ October 08, 2002: Message edited by: Ice9 ]

Yes indeed. The task manager in earlier NT versions (like Win2K) was effective until M$ bundled the Win32 API into the NT kernel and introduced Win XPee. Win2K was in my opinion the best OS M$ ever introduced.

[voidmain]

And you can just map your keybindings so CTRL+ALT+DEL will bring up "kpm" or "gnome-system-monitor" if you want it to be more like Windows (who would want that?). In fact isn't that the KDE default? Maybe it used to be a RedHat KDE default.

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by void main:
And you can just map your keybindings so CTRL+ALT+DEL will bring up "kpm" or "gnome-system-monitor" if you want it to be more like Windows (who would want that?). In fact isn't that the KDE default? Maybe it used to be a RedHat KDE default.

Hmm, I really don't know. But even if that is the case, who would really want to map their keybindings like that?    . Man this CTRL+ALT+DEL routine must be a real nightmare for Windows users    .

[voidmain]

Yeah, it used to piss me off that KDE defaulted to mapping the CTRL+ALT+DEL keys but it took two seconds to unbind those keys in KDE Control Center. If you need to use the Linux VNC client to log into an NT/2K server you need to be able to use CTRL+ALT+DEL to log on in. Speaking of using CTRL+ALT+DEL to log in... there's a winner. Microsoft programmers: "let's see, let's make our users press CTRL+ALT+DEL to log in." ... "Brilliant idea!"

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by void main:
Yeah, it used to piss me off that KDE defaulted to mapping the CTRL+ALT+DEL keys but it took two seconds to unbind those keys in KDE Control Center. If you need to use the Linux VNC client to log into an NT/2K server you need to be able to use CTRL+ALT+DEL to log on in. Speaking of using CTRL+ALT+DEL to log in... there's a winner. Microsoft programmers: "let's see, let's make our users press CTRL+ALT+DEL to log in." ... "Brilliant idea!"

Sad but true! how do those guys in M$ come up with these ideas? It's like wanting to piss Windows users more. Not only most of them were fed up with this stupid CTRL+ALT+DEL scheme they had to use it in win2K to log to a LAN or a remote server      . Man those guys in M$ do really have a sense of humour      

[beltorak0]

I think they figured that the more users gave the three fingered salute, the more they would see this action as a normal occurance, and they wouldn't notice when the system goes down and needs a soft boot.  Next is getting the MOBO manufacturers to rewire the on/off switch to send a message to the kernel to logon.  haha.  "Please press the Off button located on the front of your computer to log in to Microsoft Windows CraPee   "  don't forget the animated graphical logo, in case users (who have been accustomed to those darned crashless OSes) forget how to press the On/Off switch.

One problem I have with the KDE task monitor -- it doesn't pause the things that are non-essential like the windows versions do.  Most of the time, when I need to kill something that way, it is because something is churning the disk so hard that the interface is left out in the dust.  At least the CTL+ALT+[<- BACKSPACE] works very effectively in dumping the x server.  And of course the SysReq Hack if something starts to get a little frisky at the console. I love that thing.  ALT-SysReq-e and the only process that is left standing is "init"....  BTW, maybe it's just a slack thing, but CTL+ALT+DEL is to log off KDE, ALT+ESC launches the task monitor -- er, sysguard, and CTL+ALT+ESC brings up the "kill" mouse cursor.

-t.

[psyjax]

my fav. way of killing an errant task in OSX is to bring up the terminal, check the top for the id of the program I want killd, then type kill and the #

End of story. It's actually quicker and more reliable than using the option+apple+escape method.