How Real is Palladium?

[PsysicTV]

Perhaps there has been some disscussion on this before, but I was curious about how likely it is that Palladium will come to fruition and the TCPA will actually have it's way. Everyone (OK, _almost_ everyone    ) still seems to be pretty stirred up about it, but what are the chances that a trusted platform system will realistically be implemented any time in the near future and that Palladium isn't any more than Microsoft "We're protecting you -- really" vaporware. It seems to me from the little I've read that it would be pretty tough to totally switch over to a system like this.

[voidmain]

Yeah, Microsoft will be out of business before Palladium will ever have a chance to be used. But just in case we still need to fight it.

[slave]

Oh don't worry, most Windows users are retards who pay 80 bucks to upgrade Windows 98 to ME; they will gladly part with their money for this next "upgrade," especially if they believe all the lies fed to them about increased security and "a brand new interface."  Also take note that when Palladium comes out Microsoft will hype it even more than they did with XP, and sure enough no computer sold after 2005 (or whenever it's supposed to come out) will be had without being bundled with Windows Palladium Edition.  Oh, you'll also need it to surf the new Internet which will be run by Windows TCPA .NET servers.

[ December 04, 2002: Message edited by: Linux User #5225982375 ]

[rtgwbmsr]

quote:Originally posted by void main:
Yeah, Microsoft will be out of business before Palladium will ever have a chance to be used. But just in case we still need to fight it.

I agree. M$ would have to convince *EVERYONE* to go along with this. Just a few hardware or major software manufacturers not going along could screw everything up. And M$ doesn't have everyone's support (if they did, sites like this wouldn't exist)

[slave]

They'll get it on every Windows dolt's computer eventually.  Just watch.  XP is simply the Vaseline lubrication before they insert the rectal banana that is Palladium.  And remember, Microsoft has tens of billions of dollars in the bank.  They could bribe their customers to switch.

[voidmain]

Heh heh!! Too graphical for my liking, but very clever!  

[Doctor V]

Microsoft could get Paladium into the mainstream tomorrow without convincing a single damn person to get it.  Remember, Micro$sft XP's EULAs, they require the user give M$ the ability to update their computer remotely.  Well, Paladium could just be an auto update.  They have the technical ability with XP to do just this.  XP would be pushed onto hundreds of millions of computers overnight without abybody agreeing to anything.  Every little control measure the content cartel wants to push on the public could become a reality overnight.  Linux and Mac users would be OK, unless CBDTPA passes (Bush would sign it in a heartbeat) which would require similar technology in all digital devices.  Although TCPA fucks over the people far and wide, several of the richest companys in the world are investing billions and billions of dollars into it, and they won't just stop without some serious action.

V

[voidmain]

You are giving Microsoft *way* too much credit here. They can't even make their SMS shit software work which is designed specifically to remotely update Windows boxes. It doesn't even work worth a crap if all machines are configured identically.

[choasforages]

/*crazy future?*/
and all the people in the land, from museam keepers, to simple programers,  had a heavy look upon their face as they took their now illigal computers and threw them into the grinder. for it had been made law that content was to be protected, and that any potentintial circumvention device had to go. even museam peices like the apple twientith edition was throun into the machine, espicially the apple. even though apple tried as it could, the mega-conglomerates had thier way and banned everything they didn't own, and nearly everything they did.......
/*yeah, i probably need a little help, and my writing probably sucks, so i should stop*/

[Doctor V]

I always assume the worst.  And what I have written above is only the absolute worst case scenario.  But I would not put it beyond M$ to try.

[lazygamer]

The nice thing about Palladium is that there is more then one way to defeat it. If we lose, we may still win anyways.

The safest way is to simply make Microsoft obsolete, by one too many people switching to a vastly superior Linux.

If that don't happen, there is always the mass market rejection theroy. People remember what they could do with their old computers, and what they cannot do with their Palladium computers.