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lazygamer:
Ok so couple of days agot I was gonna play some comp. Powered er up when suddenly I get a message "missing OS". Huh? Oh I'll just reboot. "missing OS". Uh oh, im getting really scared now. Ok let's just shut it off for awhile. Turn it on "missing OS", ARGH OH NO!  :(

Linux bootloader and OS is still intact. Strangely, a few days ago, before this wierd occurence, I was dual booting properly between Linux and XP. It's like at one magic moment Windows decides to die on me. Although I noticed my harddrive is still properly being detected.

So my brother comes over and takes a look. He boots off the XP cd and re-installs. He notices that the previous XP drive(which still has all it's data intact) is not being detected as an installable drive. He's still skeptical, thinks that I must of did something with some Windows program, even if it's not Linux's fault. Of course, I try to tell him that it's just a roadbump in the life of a computer, and it's Windows's fault. He seems to think that many things have a reason(in other words, I fucked up and he had to fix it). No, he's not a windoid bound by wind0ze propaganda. He's probably a little skeptical of being fanatically anti-Microsoft, but is curious about Linux(im the Linux ambasador so far).

Sadly, to be able to continue in my day to day endevors(and not lose the precious data on my 40gig), THE LINUX PARTITIONS HAVE TO BE DELETED! WAAAAH HOW DISHONORABLE.

So now I have an 8 gig solely devoted to XP, and a 40 gig with XP on it, but it can't seem to remember it has XP.

So what to do? Just leave XPee it's own 8 gigs of uninterupted space? Or would XPee run faster by being on the 40 gig and having maybe 12-20 gigs of uninterupted space? Does the raw GB of space matter, or is it that % of space free on the drive that determines disk performance?(you know how when you fill up a disk and it loads shit really slow? That's what im talking about)

Guess I'll have to get Redhat to steal some partition space from the 40gig. Actually, I guess I'll have to back everything up(so defintly install my new CD burner which is twice as fast as my old one!), the 40gig needs a format to get rid of the space wasted by the Windows XP which is "not there".

So any guesses as to what the fuck happened?

BTW, we noticed that the chip fan was missing a screw, so that may of caused extra vibration. It was also barely moving, due to being clogged with dust and stuff. We fixed it up, and now it works fine. However, I think the chip fan status was coincidental and had nothing to do with this.

PS:Yay! I got to be a l33t tech dude and... REMOVE THE CLIPS HOLDING THE FAN IN PLACE AND INSTALL THE REPAIRED FAN, ALL WITH MY MOTHER'S SUPERVISION! YAY IM SO l33t!  ;)

rtgwbmsr:
Neither space nor % matter in drive performace. As long as it isn't filled to the brim, performance isn't dependent on drive space.

As for the whole "Missing OS thing"...it sounds viral...I don't think M$ would just put missing OS. I've seen some phunky errors, but that tops the list.

As for the fan, OMFG!!! Your mom had to watch you change the fan?! How old are you?! Jeez I built my first computer when I was 13...every computer I built lasted longer than any other computer from any manufacturers.

Zombie9920:

quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:
Ok so couple of days agot I was gonna play some comp. Powered er up when suddenly I get a message "missing OS". Huh? Oh I'll just reboot. "missing OS". Uh oh, im getting really scared now. Ok let's just shut it off for awhile. Turn it on "missing OS", ARGH OH NO!   :(  

Linux bootloader and OS is still intact. Strangely, a few days ago, before this wierd occurence, I was dual booting properly between Linux and XP. It's like at one magic moment Windows decides to die on me. Although I noticed my harddrive is still properly being detected.

So my brother comes over and takes a look. He boots off the XP cd and re-installs. He notices that the previous XP drive(which still has all it's data intact) is not being detected as an installable drive. He's still skeptical, thinks that I must of did something with some Windows program, even if it's not Linux's fault. Of course, I try to tell him that it's just a roadbump in the life of a computer, and it's Windows's fault. He seems to think that many things have a reason(in other words, I fucked up and he had to fix it). No, he's not a windoid bound by wind0ze propaganda. He's probably a little skeptical of being fanatically anti-Microsoft, but is curious about Linux(im the Linux ambasador so far).

Sadly, to be able to continue in my day to day endevors(and not lose the precious data on my 40gig), THE LINUX PARTITIONS HAVE TO BE DELETED! WAAAAH HOW DISHONORABLE.

So now I have an 8 gig solely devoted to XP, and a 40 gig with XP on it, but it can't seem to remember it has XP.

So what to do? Just leave XPee it's own 8 gigs of uninterupted space? Or would XPee run faster by being on the 40 gig and having maybe 12-20 gigs of uninterupted space? Does the raw GB of space matter, or is it that % of space free on the drive that determines disk performance?(you know how when you fill up a disk and it loads shit really slow? That's what im talking about)

Guess I'll have to get Redhat to steal some partition space from the 40gig. Actually, I guess I'll have to back everything up(so defintly install my new CD burner which is twice as fast as my old one!), the 40gig needs a format to get rid of the space wasted by the Windows XP which is "not there".

So any guesses as to what the fuck happened?

BTW, we noticed that the chip fan was missing a screw, so that may of caused extra vibration. It was also barely moving, due to being clogged with dust and stuff. We fixed it up, and now it works fine. However, I think the chip fan status was coincidental and had nothing to do with this.

PS:Yay! I got to be a l33t tech dude and... REMOVE THE CLIPS HOLDING THE FAN IN PLACE AND INSTALL THE REPAIRED FAN, ALL WITH MY MOTHER'S SUPERVISION! YAY IM SO l33t!   ;)  
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This is what happens when you mess with 3rd party boot loaders(like Lilo). So technically your Windows boot record getting wiped out is the fault of Linux and its' bootloaders...it wasn't Windows fault. ;P Like I already posted in another one of your topics..you should install XP on your Primary Drive(or disconnect your Primary drive and install it on your secondary drive as if it were a primary drive) then when you are done doing that, dsiconnect the drive wit XP on it and install Linux on the other drive. After you finish installing Linux, reconnect your XP drive and use the BIOS boot sequence to determine which OS you are going to boot to(determine which drive to boot off of first). That is the best way of doing it because your boot records for Windows won't get fucked with by the 3rd party boot loaders and Windows won't ever fuck with your Linux boot loader on the other drive.

For HArd drive performance...the performance isn't really measured in hard drive or partation size, but it is based on hard drive transfer modes(ATA 33/66/100/133) and how many RPM's the drive runs at(a 7,200 RPM ATA-100 dirve is alot faster than a 5,400 RPM ATA-100 drive...a 7,200 RPM ATA-66 drive is about as fast as a 5,400 RPM ATA-100 drive).

Zombie9920:

quote:Originally posted by The_Muffin_Man/B0b:
As for the fan, OMFG!!! Your mom had to watch you change the fan?! How old are you?! Jeez I built my first computer when I was 13...every computer I built lasted longer than any other computer from any manufacturers.
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I've been self building systems since I was 12. I never had to have my mom supervise my activities...heck I built computers for her. ;P
That is very true..a self built system is better and will last longer than an OEM computer. self builts are alot easier to upgrade than OEM crap too(because self-builts aren't limited with propriarity cases, motherboards that take manufacter's RAM, etc.).

Calum:
it's not lilo's fault. well it is less likely than it would be windows' fault. lilo is open source, so people have been bugfixing it for years, windows is closed source so... nobody (including probably microsoft) knows what the hell it's doing in amongst its megabytes of (probably redundant) code.

however at least zombie26783246 is trying to help, which is more than i'm doing!  :D

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