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Why Microsoft will always be king
Calum:
yeah that's right, it's not as if you get better, faster and more helpful support from most large linux vendors for their products, than you get from microsoft for windows.
i will refrain from commenting on the concept of a company that charges by the minute for support.
avid, who gives a shit? you fail to add anything new, and while you seem quite intelligent, your apathy is exactly why people do not innovate, why they just make the world boring and commonplace.
true innovators, all the people who have moved us forward as a species, do not and did not ever, think in such an apathetic manner as you seem to think is the only correct way to be.
creedon:
quote:Originally posted by Windows XP User #5225982375:
avid007, I'm one of the only people here who thinks Microsoft actually makes a good product (for home use, anyway) and even I don't believe that Microsoft is invulnerable, monopoly though it may be. Fact is, Steve Ballmer has publicly made it clear that Linux is the most worrisome problem Microsoft has ever faced. Since it isn't a company, more of a phenomenon, none of Microsoft's tactics seem to work on it. To think, people giving software away for free??!?? Steve can barely comprehend the notion itself, although he is beginning to pretend to cozy up to the idea, even going so far as to say he "loves open source." For him I imagine it's like cuddling up in bed with a pit viper. Before Linux came on the scene, the idea that people would actually give away software to combat Microsoft hadn't entered into even his darkest thoughts. After using some of the later versions of Linux myself, I have a feeling that Microsoft, and Apple for that matter, should be very wary of its progress. It only takes a couple of extra steps, and bam! No more proprietary operating systems. So, in my opinion, Microsoft is not invulnerable, even on the desktop. All they need to do is get complacent or make one wrong move (palladium, perhaps?) and it's over for them. I think it's great, since now we have something that will drive Microsoft to make even better products than it already does, and so even though it may stay around it will be stronger in the long run because of things like Linux.
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WOW XP; I'm impressed- you're really starting to make sense, and you're actually saying GOOD thigs about Linux.
You're echoing what I think; as an OS, Windows whatever is what you make of it. For a new computer user, it's cake (no thinking involved) It does have stability problems, but I think a lot of that is the proprietary aspect that MS is forced to use. My biggest issue with Microsoft is their ruthless business practices; they seem to be willing to degrade their own product to make it difficult (or impossible) for anyone to create applications that can be used on a Windows system, and NOT be owned by Microsoft (or at least licenced by Microsoft). My box is free of MS; I removed WIN98 and I am going to replace it with an OS that doesn't have the "money before all else" philosophy that MS has. This doesn't mean that I'll have an OS that's more convenient than Windows; I don't think very many users would say that Linux is all that convenient, but I will be away from a philosophy of greed that seems to pervade anything Microsoft touches.
voidmain:
I think this kid is just nervous because he spent all that money on his Microsoft crap and he doesn't want to be the last one left to use it. So he has to spread FUD. I guess he can't read. My kids have no trouble using Linux. My parents have no trouble using Linux. They are the most computer illiterate people on this earth and have no trouble.
I am using RedHat, downloaded for free (I don't know where this lining peoples pockets FUD come from). Then he insults my mother. Typical Microsoft user. Does Bill Gates have kids? Maybe this is one of his creations.
KernelPanic:
quote:Originally posted by avid007:
>>You come on here and say that we are wasting our time for a cause that doesn't exist. What is it that you think you are doing here?
I am simply getting on your nerves because you know I am right. Plus, I was bored tonight.
>>I don't know what Redhat did. I can still download Redhat for free from their site, what did they do?
You know exactly what they did. They sold the fuck out! Go to a Linux conference...ask anybody who has been here a while. It ain't techy cool anymore. It's all business now. All the causers just contributed to the wallets of someone else.
You know that is true. Let anybody tell me that Linux conferences aren't all business now.
I'm just saying know who you are working for.
-avid007
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Linux conferences tend to be about business. For most of their larger ones this is their aim, corporates selling their products.
But....
This is linux, there is a flip side of the coin. There are still 'geeky' little meetings and there are plenty of little LUG's around. Yes there are large compnay's behind distributions, but yes there are many other less-well know distributions being used.
If you want something and don't want to look for it, you don't really want it. If you want any easy OS go get Mandrake/RedHat. If you want a difficult OS go and serach for one you like.
Hell, why not compile everything from the start?
But seriously, what the fuck do you want. Linux needs these businesses for success, and linux needs the geeks to be linux. Geeks don't like corporations and corporation dont like geeks. That is why linux's attack on the market is happening on two fronts.
Linux can be simple, linux can be hard, linux can be big, linux can be small. Just get what you want, that's the point what you want.
Also are you too young/stupid to understand that a large company or government agency doesnt want to use a product with no real backing behind it in their eyes?
Welcome to MES though dude, you're not that bad methinks. At least you're not XP luser
SpaceMonkey:
it is far too easy for people to conform to the m$ standard. as long as people have a desire to be in control of their own systems Linux will always have a home. if people like us didnt exist, M$ probably would have already won the war. No..our great war is no longer a spiritual one..it has become digital as well.
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