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flap:
Firstly, I know nothing about RedHat's Advanced Server distributions, but if it's all GPL or similarly licenced software then, regardless of whether or not they make free downloads available, it's legal for anyone else to make isos available elsewhere. If you sold an iso of their OS, provided it is all GPL software, it would be perfectly legal and thus wouldn't be 'pirated', and there'd be absolutely nothing wrong with you selling it for $50.

Whether or not companies make their GPL'd free software available for easy download as isos, or they decide to charge a million dollars, it doesn't matter as the software is guaranteed by the GPL to be completely, unambiguously Free once it's been distributed.

I know it's been said a million times but you have to stop asking the question "How can it be 'free' when it costs $2500?" and think in terms of speech, not beer.

lazygamer:
Well im getting better at this free software concept, and even the free speech thing. I just had a little trouble understanding those hefty price tags.  

voidmain:
Actually they do provide more than just support in the Avanced Server versions but that is the bulk of it. Wide scale enterprise support is the bulk of it. They also used to specially tune the kernel to run Oracle (Oracle is not Free Software, and if you think RedHat Advanced Server is expensive, check into Oracle licenses. RedHat prices look like a pimple on a giant's ass next to Oracle pricing).

They also provide RedHat cluster manager (something you certainly have no use for). But you can also cluster using RedHat using Free clustering utilities. I don't see what the complaint is. They are a company, they do have to pull in revenue. They are basically giving you the equivelant of Windows XP Server, SQL Server, Terminal Server, Exchange, Office, Visual Studio, etc, etc, etc. You want support directly from RedHat you pay for it.

I used a LOT of RedHat at the last large corporation I worked for. We used the download version of RedHat exclusively and did not purchase support (we had a tight budget so you can do a lot with free/Free). I have my own home brewed method of doing web server clustering and we didn't need to do any application clustering. Believe me, it would be rare that you as a user (and even as a small business) would need anything more than the download version. Large companies with big budgets may want/need the commercial support and proprietary database clustering capabilities.

[ October 20, 2002: Message edited by: void main ]

HibbeeBoy:
I'll just pop my nose in. IE as the browser of choice ? This part of Windows I could do without. There are many reasons why people are making the switch from M$, for home use, this is one of them. I don't want my machine compromised with IE sending out statistics and Gawd knows what else back to the mothership. As an IT decision maker, the switch to Linux is very much on at the corporate level for cost effectiveness, security, stability and support. Also, (I know not everyone like IBM) IBM are embracing Linux with their Midrange server line such as the iSeries (AS400) which is the platform in use where I work.
At last, after 20 years in IT, something interesting is happening.

distortion:

quote:Originally posted by avid007:
No solid AD structure.  
-avid007
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i dont know if this has already been said, because i've yet to take the time to read the two pages of posts, but:

did you know that AD is a ripoff of something called NDS?

i dont quite remember who created this, but i think it was novell.

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