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Fukar:

quote:Originally posted by Calum:
this bubaslubass guy is really good! why doesn't she or he get a job as a stand up comedian?
My post isn't full of technical bullshit, i am 'only' a lowly user, and have had limited experience of M$ alternatives, but i have had a chance to use many versions of Windows, and what a heap of shit it really is. there's no argument. you guya are doing really well to be arguing about this because there is really no large issue to dispute. Windows is slow and cruddy. it allocates all its system resources at bootup time and plods through muck until shutdown time or until a crash, whichever comes first (guess which happens most often to me?) and as for drivers, as already mentioned, the hardware manufacturers are responsible for it, but they often only write windows drivers. My mitsubishi electric cdrw has had a driver problem recently, i went to their website and they have full driver support for 4 versions of windows, and nothing for anything else. It's a usb device so you'd think they'd at least have a Mac driver.
well, i haven't got a Mac so i don't know but what i'm saying is these drivers are often a steaming pile of poo themselves, or is it just windows' handling of the drivers who can tell. With said device i thought it was the drivers till i discovered that to fix the problem, i needed to change the swap file size using control panel, and hey presto working like clockwork.
Because windows fills up all the ram with crap, it uses the ultra slow swap file instead you see, so that you get a lot of buffer problems and read/write errors etc. by reducing the swap file size, it makes windows panic and empty out some of the crap in the ram, or so i understand.
Anyway, i've rambled off a bit but what i'm saying is that manufacturers try to lick windows' bollocks and microsoft, when it receives a particularly lucrative backhander, kisses the ass of those manufacturers in turn. With Linux, the guys using the system have got to write and distribute their own drivers! In their spare time! Can you imagine the usual drool-chinned M$ butthead doing that? Try hard. No? i didn't think so.
These 'my computer works fine with windows' morons have no concept of why their computer works at all or what goes into making a system. As we've seen already, many of these so called OS criticisms are actually criticisms of proprietary software running on those OSs and much of the reason windows works fine is actually due to workarounds that other companies have developed to make windows WORK. (i always thought that 'MS Works was an oxymoron, much like many MS users now i think of it...) I have to use one program to clear the ram when windows fills it up with goo, another to stop windows opening those mysterious background programs that write to the hard drive when you're trying to run scandisk et c et c.
Right. well, that's it. to sum up, i'm a no code non programmer user and even i know that M$ software is a pile of crap produced solely to make money and anybody that says otherwise has been brainwashed, is getting some of the revenue concerned, or has never made any serious enquiry outside the M$ camp.
End of missive, commence flaming now....   ;)  
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This is all great, I love seeing people break down and start using such childish language as has been used throughout this thread, though it has calmed down.  Now I won't pretend to be an expert with computers at all.  But I upgraded (no clean install) of XP on my dell computer that had ME.  I had very few problems with ME and it ran games great, which is my main objective, to run games well.  I mainly play CS and run several servers for our website.  After I upgraded to XP, I left the computer on for over a week with NO crashing, if a buggy program locked up, just Ctrl+Alt+Del and gone.  The system has been stable and NO crashes, friends in computer science courses can hardly believe the performance I get with XP and that I upgraded instead of clean installing.  I get at least 72fps on CS with a 16MB ATI Rage Pro 128 card (even though the HL engine is old).  All other games run great, with a ton of stuff running in the back ground, such as multiple webbrowsers, a program that remotely controls game servers, etc. (though I DO have 512MB of RAM).  But I notice absolutely no lag or slowdown, but I realize that sometimes the components just fit and work together great and maybe I was one of the lucky ones.  Also, XP is very easy to use for a noob like myself. Though there are some counter-intuitive things about it, such as going to the START button to shut off the computer, but overall, it rocks.  Flame away   ;)  .

Fukar

Neon92k:

quote:Originally posted by bubaslubas:
XP is a darn good try by the Microshit guys  
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i agree it's the best attempt ms so far, but other companies managed to make similar OSes 5 years ago!

jtpenrod:

quote: Also, XP is very easy to use for a noob like myself.  
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No flames here. It's a point well taken, and XP is better than Win ME (but that's not saying much  ;)  ). However, the main problem here is that it will keep you a "noob" forever. This is one of the things I detest about XP, and why it will *never* be on any system of mine (unless M$ gets this flying thing sorted out. The day Steve Ballmer soars through the air is the day I get XP    :D  ). It seems that every time you try to do anything, up pops yet another idiot box, no matter how simple a task it is or how many times you've done it. And take a good look at that desktop. It looks like it was designed for a four year old (you can take that almost literally. At Costco, in the toy dept., I found a toy computer called "My First PC". The screen shot on the front of the box bore a *stricking* resemblance to the XP desktop.) This is what M$ thinks of you.      

I also don't want the nagware. Don't want a passport? It won't take no for an answer. Everytime you go on line it will ask over and over again get a passport. No thanks, I get enough nagging from the women in my life   ;)  

Use XP if you must, but do yourself a favor: try learning a thing or two and educate yourself to the point where you can ditch XP and get a real OS. You'll be glad you did.

Calum:
Why did the right honourable gentlemen quote a big block of my usual rambling OS related blah when talking about childish language, before rambling off on his or her own rambling blah? I wasn't particularly childish in that post was i? just because i said poo!
Get over it! i said poo and i meant it.
Adults are allowed to say poo as well you know, however i agree with you about the inflamed childish name throwing bouts! ho ho ho! very amusing...  :D

Neon92k:
Poo! Hee hee hee... Poo!

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