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mc0282

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iTunes Bad(mp3 and ogg.), WMA Good
« on: 20 February 2004, 13:34 »
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3973,1526047,00.asp


Ok let start by i hate windows media player all versions.. "WMA is good" and has built in DRM ? umm no i do not want that in my format... so shove it,why,why ?  this person making DRM look good ? like is ok to accept DRM ?  i dont accept DRM... if i buy a song or whatever i do whatever i want with it.. i do not give a shit what law said so.. i am not afraid to go to jail. what is going to next ? Trust worthty computing however microsoft is calling  it ?  *sigh my computer every day is getting close to be drop out the window.

[ February 20, 2004: Message edited by: mc0282 ]

huh, what?

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« Reply #1 on: 18 February 2004, 19:35 »
Ogg is the best. It doesn't have DRM, you don't have to pay a license if you include it in your software (unlike mp3), and it's up to CD quality (and even beyond).

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« Reply #2 on: 20 February 2004, 10:02 »
quote:
From the article

Ogg Vorbis is indeed free and it sounds great to boot. Unfortunately, it has no built-in DRM, so none of those legal online music stores will touch it unless they tack on a proprietary DRM technology. If that happened, then we're right back to the problem with iTunes and the iPod: you're locked into a single brand of portable player and a single piece of PC software.

I expect the iPod/iTunes duo to get Netscaped by WMA-compatible stuff within a few years.




Dammit, why the *&$# do they assume DRM must be in  legally downloaded music?

If we are gonna pay for something we don't need DRM.  Magnatune has the right idea.

It's very very disturbing that people accept the idea that MS will "netscape" music and anything else it wants.

[ February 20, 2004: Message edited by: M. O'Brien ]

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« Reply #3 on: 21 February 2004, 11:13 »
there's something I hate more.

all these losers who think that by running Windows Media or iTunes, that somehow all of your music files that you spent hours stealing of kazaa are suddenly going to be locked and inaccessable
Go the fuck ~

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« Reply #4 on: 21 February 2004, 23:52 »
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jimmyjames.sytes.net: there's something I hate more.

all these losers who think that by running Windows Media or iTunes, that somehow all of your music files that you spent hours stealing of kazaa are suddenly going to be locked and inaccessable


Windows Media Player deletes some of your mp3's.

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« Reply #5 on: 22 February 2004, 01:08 »
quote:
Originally posted by Refalm:


Windows Media Player deletes some of your mp3's.



????

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« Reply #6 on: 22 February 2004, 02:12 »
It has been known that Windows Media Player 9, which contains DRM, removes some mp3's that you previously downloaded off KaZaA or Gnutella.

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« Reply #7 on: 22 February 2004, 04:15 »
quote:
Originally posted by Refalm:
It has been known that Windows Media Player 9, which contains DRM, removes some mp3's that you previously downloaded off KaZaA or Gnutella.


What the fuck? As much as I hate Microsoft, I find that hard to believe. How does it know which MP3s I downloaded fom Kazaa? What about the dozens of MP3s I made myself? Just cause an MP3 doesnt have DRM doesn't mean thats its an illegal file. Do you have any articles or proof about this?

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« Reply #8 on: 22 February 2004, 04:20 »
all I know is that I like itunes. people are stupid. just do not share anything illegal when running kazza or whatever and you will be ok.
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« Reply #9 on: 22 February 2004, 04:20 »
would it go by what program had created the file maybe?
just say know

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« Reply #10 on: 22 February 2004, 04:34 »
I used WMP9 for four months and none of my songs ever miraculously disappeared
Go the fuck ~

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« Reply #11 on: 22 February 2004, 05:38 »
Then they weren't blacklisted.

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« Reply #12 on: 1 March 2004, 04:44 »
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Originally posted by restin256:
Then they weren't blacklisted.


Blacklisted? Please elaborate.
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« Reply #13 on: 1 March 2004, 08:42 »
A blacklist is a list of bad things, supposedly appliciable in this situation. In the TCPA view, certain pirated versions of programs and such would be "blacklisted", ie refuse to run. If an mp3 hash or md5 is found to be shared on kazaa from a bunch of users, Microsoft could blacklist them - the media player would delete all blacklisted items.

At least that's how I think it would go.

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« Reply #14 on: 1 March 2004, 15:51 »
why not walk the  middle   ground?

another reason itunes can be trashed

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