Why I dont use XP

[Heru]

Actually IE takes up around 30 megs of space.  Still not a whole lot, but it's annoying.  And you can't remove it from XP without serious side effects.

IMO if you're going to use a version of Windows at all, use Windows 2000, and only apply SP1.  If you apply SP2, you will not be able to remove IE without serious side effects.

[gothwer]

quote:I was greeted with a stupid annoying dog who dumbed every sentence down and made it seem like the people who buy this type of pc are mentally retarded(only half true).  

I wasn't. That dog your speaking of is only found when you do search and can be turned off as easy as this: Right click and hit hide. But I guess thats too hard for you. Whatever animated chars in XP are not nearly as gay as the Mac Face. *shudder*.

 

quote: I look under add/remove programs, and to my surprise, Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer arent listed. Give me a break.

Hit add/remove Windows Components. Wow that was tough.

 

quote: Being a linux user, Im not a fan of desktop icons and wanted to delete all but the My Computer and trash, but NO.

Mine came with only the Recycle Bin at the very bottom right corner. You bought the sick defaced version that is pre-loaded with horse shit that the OEM provides. And also, I have lots of desktop icons on my linux machine that came default like Home and around 5 SuSE icons.

 

quote:I restart the pc, and guess what greets me. the damn mother fucking talking dog.  

I find this very, very, very hard to beleive, You must have "search" under the startup folder, and God knows why someone put it there.

 

quote: or Solaris 8

Please, please DONT!

 

quote: Heru: XP is lovely isn't it? I think there is a way to kill that dog, I just don't remember how

Is 2 buttons really that hard to remember? Seems alot easier than the bajillion linux commands you are required to type in to even use the machine.

Oh and for "mother fucking talking dog", KDE has that god awful dragon that pisses me off every time I see his fuckin' neck tie with a big fat K on it.

WORK IT ALL OFF

[Master of Reality]

quote:Originally posted by Cocaine Elephant:
Oh and for "mother fucking talking dog", KDE has that god awful dragon that pisses me off every time I see his fuckin' neck tie with a big fat K on it.

Dragon??.... you sure you werent on cocaine at the time?

[Master of Reality]

quote:Originally posted by VoidMain:
You should be able to delete the "unrecognized" partition (which is NTFS) during the Win98 install, or with a boot disk as you originally mentioned.

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: VoidMain ]

the win98 install program doesnt have any kind of partition tool or anything. If you dont have a fat with enough space it just simply aborts the install. Even if you do have enough space 7 times outta 10 it will say that you dont have enough space and abort. I tried to isntall win98 on another computer with a 6 Gig HD and it said that there wasnt enough space. I re-partitioned it at least 6 times to try and get it to work, but it didnt.
You have to use fdisk off the strtup disk to remove the NTFS partition (in FDISK its called 'unrecognized') and create a new windows partition (the only one fdisk can create is vfat).

[ June 06, 2002: Message edited by: Master of Reality / Bob ]

[voidmain]

Mine does, but I created my own Win98 install CD.  I forgot that the retail version doesn't (well, at least I'm not going to dig it out to look at any rate).

[preacher]

quote:Originally posted by Ctrl Alt Del 123:
With you being a Linux user, I find it hard to believe you couldn't do some of the tings you stated. Usually Linux users are knowledgeable people who know their shit, and since you claim to be one, jesus, did you really use the product at all or make this up?

To remove the dog, CLICK ON HIM, and he will greet you with some options, click the one that says "Turn OFF animated character". Not hard to do.

Removing some MS middleware: you didn't mention it, but you will soon. To uninstall Windows Messenger (the worst of all MS's middleware) go start > run > type in RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove and hit Ok.

So far, you can't remove Windows Media Player and it's a bitch to remove IE, however, they both combined are about 4 MB big, they don't take up much space.

By default, XP has NO desktop shortcuts whatsoever except for the Recycle Bin. But since I think you have an OEM copy from your PC manufacture, they have added all kinda crap. Just right click your desktop > properties > go to the Desktop tab > click the "customize button"

brb

Well I was able to turn the dog off by clicking on him, but when I restarted the computer, he was back. By the way, thanks for the tips on dealing with xp. If I decide to use it, which I probably wont, these will come in handy.

[Calum]

quote:Removing some MS middleware: you didn't mention it, but you will soon. To uninstall Windows Messenger (the worst of all MS's middleware) go start > run > type in RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove and hit Ok.

That's quite easy and intuitive, yes, also, i liked your step by step easy way to uninstall media player and internet explorer, nice one.

So there's only actually a solution for two of the five points you address (messenger, and the dog), and one of them involves typing all that drek into the run box, which many people will not be able to do without you telling them what to type first, as you just did. I expect it would also involve removing the messenger components by hand.

To be honest i can't see why someone would get windows xp and then try to remove all this crap, i mean you paid for it, why not leave it on? either that or, as you say, get a real OS...

PS, no offense, Ctrl, i just didn't think xp sounded as customisable and intuitive as your first paragraph seemed to suggest.

[ June 07, 2002: Message edited by: Calum ]

[Chooco]

mine didn't come with some stupid ass dog like you described...
just install Mandrake and it will all be fine  

[gothwer]

But dont use linux if you want to play games, especially good ones like Morrowind.
Atleast NWN is for linux.

[psyjax]

Cocain:

What gay Mac face?

[Master of Reality]

but make sure to use linux if you want to play the coolest games hella-fast.. games like RTCW, Quake, Unreal tourny.

[slave]

Let me just say this:

I HATE UNREAL TOURNAMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only 133t k3w1 d00dz wh0 3njoy h0ning th31r sk1llz 24 h0urz a d@y play that game.. The "community" that surrounds UT can only be surpassed in retardedness by the Quake 2 deathmatch fanatics who thankfully are almost extinct now.  The ones that still exist can be found in their moldy rooms searching desperately for a Quake 2 server so they can play it on their pentium 233 with their voodoo 2's linked in "SLI" mode.  Ugh.

Quake wasn't bad, and some of the mods were great (Team Fortress) but come on, it's six years old.

[Heru]

I don't like UT either.  I don't have a reason though, I just don't like it.

Anyhow, Linux can run quite a few Windows games, and a few have even beeen ported to Linux.  I am trying to kill this misconception that Linux won't play games.  Go to www.transgaming.com pay the 15 dollars and download the precompiled binary of Winex(you can get source for free, but the binary has some proprietary crap in it that lets you use Safe-disk copy protected games).  WineX is great.  I've tested Sim City 2000, StarCraft, Diable 2, and Warcraft 2 in it(hell those are the few windows based games I actually play).  And a program is available to let you play Quake 2 in Linux, the program is freeware and you need the Windows version of Quake 2.

As time goes on and Linux increases in popularity on the desktop more and more games will work in Linux, and more will be ported.  But if you really like gaming get a console.

[Ctrl Alt Del 123]

Well, with SP1, thankfully you can HIDE all of Microsofts middleware, including IE, OE, WMP and Messenger. IT CAN BE HIDDEN AND PERMENETLY TURNED OFF. HOWEVER, it still does not remove it, and if you want the hard drive space, just delete the folder (all of 5 or 6 megs).

Still, for Linux users, Win 2000 is much better than XP. XP is built for HOME users, thus the new interface (which I like, I use the silver one), and all the wizzards.

[Calum]

quote:Originally posted by Ctrl Alt Del 123:
Well, with SP1, thankfully you can HIDE all of Microsofts middleware, including IE, OE, WMP and Messenger. IT CAN BE HIDDEN AND PERMENETLY TURNED OFF. HOWEVER, it still does not remove it, and if you want the hard drive space, just delete the folder (all of 5 or 6 megs).

i agree, it's moot, why use windows if you don't want all that M$ crap anyway? it's like buying a dog and saying you think you should have the right not to feed him (actually it's not really, but you know what i mean).
 

quote:
Still, for Linux users, Win 2000 is much better than XP. XP is built for HOME users, thus the new interface (which I like, I use the silver one), and all the wizzards.

Actually, for linux users, linux is better than any version of windows! simple as that...