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I'd say you do. If you didn't, then we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
You are having that conversation. I've moved on.
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Funny thing is, nobody ever said it did. They simply said that it isn't as bad as what you say. We said that it hasn't fucked up for us. Some of us even said that Linux has been known to fuck up.
Each pearson does have their own experiance. But like you have stated. Just because you yourself hav not seen windows fuck up does not mean that for the majority it works fine.
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Because we said this, you started a jihad against people for saying that "Windows had better driver support"
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Jihad means to strife. Or to make difficult. How the heck does 'jihad' fit into it?
You mean I started yelling at people......
compared to Linux it does not. But thats from what I have seen. Maby the next version will be better. Who knows.
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when nobody ever said such a thing.
Aloone. The one that stated that Windows had better driver support than Linux as it was fact. If that was the case. My D-Link card would work.
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No shit. But, also remember that while many pieces of hardware are supported... many are not. You word your claims in such a way that this is what we get from you:
Ah. So there is wher the misscommunication is. I believe some are not. Correct. But at least for Linux it is improving.
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"Linux is perfect in every way. If you say you had a problem with it, you're lying and you've been brainwashed by the 'MS FUD machine'!"
No. Linux has flaws just like any other OS out there. But when it comes to computing. Then yes they are doing a good job. I have yet to see M$ make a diffrence out there. But who knows for the future.
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Whether or not you mean to communicate that is irrelevant. This is the way you ACTUALLY come across.
Well I appologize if thats the way I have come accross.
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I stated the opposite, that most do. In my experience, I've never had one driver to fuck up.
Which was great. So I can see why you would find windows helpful.
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I've never had a Linux driver fuck up on me. I've known people who had Windows drivers fuck up. I've known people that had Linux drives fuck up. I had an OS X driver fuck up.
True. Same here. I've eventualy have gotten Linux to work and once they work they stay working. Unfortunatly I've never had that much of a positive experiance. Even if I could get the driver to work in windows it seemed to revert back to its previous problem, happend with my radeon 7500. But I'm glad things worked out for you at least.
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Just as Windows has. I've seen a definite improvement in quality since 1994 when I started using Windows. 3.1 was god awful,
I agree. Couldn't stand windows 3.1.
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then 95 came out and it was quite amazing. Win98 turned me off of 9x completely,
I went from wni95, 98SE to ME (Never tried 98 and alot of people that had, said the same thing as you)and I found that they did a good job over all. They ran the programs that they were supposed to run and I could at least get some things to work. Which was great for me. I agree that It was a step in the right direction after windows3.1
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though, and I jumped ship to NT4. Around the same time,
I first came accross NT4 when I was hired as an admin. It didn't handle to well on stability and I found it awful compared to 9x.
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I started fiddling with alternative OSes. OS/2 3.x, Linux, and I got my first Mac, a then fairly new Power Mac 7200 and I ran OS 8.5 (which I gladly paid $100 for).
Hay, thats cool. I've never got into MACS. but its cool that you got into them.
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I went from NT 4 to 2000, but didn't get XP when it came out.
Yea, I took the same path. We got slogged by viruses and such under NT4 and we thaught that Windows2000 would be a great upgrade. So we went for it. In the end we got clobbered again by the same stuff that affected NT4.
So I see that our experiances differ in that point.'
We then upgraded our desktops to XP to which ran fine for a while. About 4 months or so up untill these latest rash of infections. We had updated them to run into the same problems as the previous versions. By this time we had enough over at the server department which some of them had just got 2003 to work and decided to go over to linux. I started off with an old distro (Caldera Linux eDesktop 2.2.14 I believe) to see how it felt then moved up. Currently its a mixture of Red Hat and SuSE. I never got into the macs but my friends that do use them love them.
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By that time, I was sold on OS X, and waited until the end of summer '01 and got an iMac 500 with OS X. I used that until the beginning of summer '04, at which time I got a PC so I could run XP and Red Hat.
Well I'm actually learning alot from you. What made you switch to PC?
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XP was greatly enhanced from what I remembered of 2000. It was noticably faster, it was more polished, more attractive (fuck you guys, I like the way it looks),
Hmmm I guess some people would like that kind of GUI. I like the skins on KDE myself. I've never used XP as a personal desktop. Only in corperations. Unlike 2000 it seemed to me to be heavy and alot of people complained on the slowness of the apps, that it took to long to login or something as simple as the start menu would take a few minutes to popup.
I did find the KDE 1 and 2 were limited but KDE3.x has been amazing. I don't see the need do higher that 3.1 since I can do what I want with that version but I have heard that KDE has gotten faster than its previous versions.
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and better than 2000.
Well I'm glad that you find it so.
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Now, with SP2, I can say that it's gotten even better, as nearly all of the glaring problems have been dealt with.
Kudos to the Windows boys at MS. They're finally doing their job.
Well I have yet to see SP2 solve the things that it has promised. It hasn't worked for me. But I'm glad it at least worked for somebody. No harm in that.
Thanks Jimmy James for sharing your experiance. One of the best posts you have made.
