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Does anyone has Microsoft Visual C++ ?

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choasforages:
yup portablie .net, i really like the mono .net project, the opensource community is going to beat microsoft at creating .net i belive, just look at qt# and gtk#, for somereason, i think that microsoft is a bit behind on that one. and the qt, and gtk comunitys will just have anohter languger to go at each other with.

Refalm:

quote:BadKarma: skip MBO, get your HAVO diploma and go to a HBO.....
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No I couldn't... I had trouble finnishing MAVO already, and HAVO seems too difficult anyways...

Do you have some advise of how I can do better than my ROC teachers? (the failures of your stagaire can be very helpfull to me)

[ August 12, 2002: Message edited by: Refalm ]

slave:
Visual Studio .NET is a dream and well worth the money.  Glade is a punk program for GNOME fantastics  and Kdevelop is slow (dammit QT period is slow)

Refalm:

quote:Windows XP User #5225982375: Visual Studio .NET is a dream and well worth the money.
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The only in Visual Studio .NET programmes I've seen are meanth for cracking, flooding, making trojans...

Nice programmes to play with, none of them are really serious.

badkarma:

quote:No I couldn't... I had trouble finnishing MAVO already, and HAVO seems too difficult anyways...

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:-/

HAVO was a no brainer for me. I flunked once in second grade (can't remember why, dont want to either). But I did absolutely nothing for 6 years but showing up. Homework? What's that? And even the showing up part faded away. My absence in my graduation year totals up to at least 1/5th of the year (I wasn't at school at least once a week) but they couldn't expell me or anything because my grades didn't suffer    

The look on all the teachers faeces errr faces when I walked away with my diploma was worth a million bucks ...

 
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Do you have some advise of how I can do better than my ROC teachers? (the failures of your stagaire can be very helpfull to me)

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From what I observed it's nigh on impossible to fail (unless you are a complete retard). Our (stagiare) learned more in 2.5 months with us then in 2 years of school.

I can only judge according to what others have told me though, I've never been there myself. I saw some course material from our (stagiare) and I basically laughed my ass off at how easy it was.

I guess it all depends on what you want though... if you aspire a programming job, don't go there, period. If you want to administer windowze boxes then go there. If you want to have a basic diploma and learn stuff on your own time then go there.

I don't want to tell you not to go to school but if you ask my opinion it's highly overrated. You can learn a lot more practical stuff a lot faster by doing it instead of theorizing about it (this more reflects me on a HBO informatica though, there is not much theorizing done on a MBO informatica   ;)  ).

phew ... long post, I'm all done now    

NOTE:

I thought the correct english word for stagiare was interm, but according to kdict interm is no english word and I seem to have misplaced my dictionary  

[ August 12, 2002: Message edited by: BadKarma ]

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