I think i understand why this love for MS products.

[Bazoukas]

We humans are very easy to please each other.

 Go at bestBuy for example and go where MS have their products.  Shiny boxes, slick looking graphics on the box, eyecatching analysis of the product on the box and plus the 300$ tag on it.
 Shit even the books for .NET are cool looking as hell compared to the linux Books.


  Think about it. People say something like this "It must be good. look at the whole setting, plus it costs so much money. No way its a fucked up product."

   Then they go home and after few weeks/Months the stink starts coming out.
  What do they say then? " No this is still good. I paid for it."


  just my 2 cents

[voidmain]

The same analogy can be applied to women. (sorry Kat).

[Master of Reality]

that was a burn.

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[pkd_lives]

You've got a point. People get so closed minded, and petty, when it comes to issues of pride.

Like admiting they don't know something. They forget that everytime there is something new they have to LEARN, and people are so lazy that they don't want to learn something new. I fear the day I don't want to learn, because that's the day I will be dead.

[rtgwbmsr]

You forgot holographic we-tried-to-prevent-copies-by-making-them-shiny CDs!

Pirate Linux all you want...spread the *nix!

[Kat]

quote:Originally posted by VoidMain:
The same analogy can be applied to women. (sorry Kat).

! I always find that men who bitch about women are either:
A)Whipped
B)Aren't getting any
C)All of the above    

Back on topic:
Same goes to the people that buy XP for the GUI or because it is the "newest" thing. It is true that alot of people don't want to learn anything new. What is sad is that people accept the poor/medicore preformance in Windows, but won't invest the effort to learn something better.

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by Kat:


 It is true that alot of people don't want to learn anything new.

No kidding.  I can't even get people to use SSH instead of telnet, even after I installed TeraTerm SSH and put a shiny link to it on their desktop.

I get reminded of a quote from Dustin Hoffman after he did "Rain Man."  He said in some ways society is suffering from a form of "social
autism."

time for .. time for windows upgrade... definitely.... course gotta use MS OFFICE... OFFICE...im a very good user....

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[voidmain]

quote:Originally posted by M. O'Brien:
No kidding.  I can't even get people to use SSH instead of telnet, even after I installed TeraTerm SSH and put a shiny link to it on their desktop.

Oh yes you can.  Just turn off "telnetd" on all of your servers like I did.  They learn really quick from that point on.  And I originally gave users TT w/SSH and have since found Putty/PSCP to be a little cleaner. And the SSH from www.ssh.com is pretty nice too and has a WS_FTP like SCP interface, but it is not free for commercial use.  TT does have some nice features too.

[creedon]

quote:Originally posted by Kat:


! I always find that men who bitch about women are either:
A)Whipped
B)Aren't getting any
C)All of the above    

Back on topic:
Same goes to the people that buy XP for the GUI or because it is the "newest" thing. It is true that alot of people don't want to learn anything new. What is sad is that people accept the poor/medicore preformance in Windows, but won't invest the effort to learn something better.

XP is the operating system equivilent of NASCAR or the WWE; Linux is Formula1 or Tae Kwon Do.
Men who allow themselves to be whipped, deserve it!

[pkd_lives]

"Men who allow themselves to get whipped deserve it"

Some want it.

[creedon]

quote:Originally posted by pkd:
"Men who allow themselves to get whipped deserve it"

Some want it.

EERRRRRR.......is that like "Beat me, whip me, make me GLAD I'm a man!!"  I'll pass, thanks.

[mobrien_12]

quote:Originally posted by VoidMain:

 
Oh yes you can.  Just turn off "telnetd" on all of your servers like I did.

I havn't allowed telnetd on my boxes for years, but  my people talk to other computers more than my servers.  I have told the managers of those other computers about the dangers of keeping telnetd open, especially since packet sniffers have been a chronic problem on one of the subnets I work on, but they don't listen to me.  Finally, the University mainframes will drop telnetd in December, four years late IMHO.  Perhaps then they will get the message.

[SpeeDFreaK]

quote: XP is the operating system equivilent of NASCAR or the WWE; Linux is Formula1 or Tae Kwon Do.
 

I think linux is really more like the WRC. (Twin?)Turbocharged super-light 4-bangers doing everything nascar racers cant. Such as making right turns. Or jumps. Or driving offroad in rain, snow, mud... (I can't wait to get my hands on a Lancer Evo7 or WRX    )

[Chooco]

quote:Originally posted by bazoukas:
WShit even the books for .NET are cool looking as hell compared to the linux Books.

well actually, from the publisher who makes the best books ever (O'Reilly), they look the same.
here is the C# book i own (i wasted money on this one)

here are 2 Linux books i own and

it's not more appealing, trust me ehehe  

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[creedon]

quote:Originally posted by SpeeDFreaK:


I think linux is really more like the WRC. (Twin?)Turbocharged super-light 4-bangers doing everything nascar racers cant. Such as making right turns. Or jumps. Or driving offroad in rain, snow, mud... (I can't wait to get my hands on a Lancer Evo7 or WRX     )

I agree about rally racing, but there's just something awe-inspiring about an F-1 race in a pounding downpour with 75 foot rooster-tails behind 600 HP racing cars going around a road course at better than 150 MPH; I'd like to see NASCAR try to race in a heavy dew; it would be an instant demolition derby.
Actually, my analogy was about the skill level needed to use XP verses any Linux; an idiot can use XP; you've got to have some skills to use Linux.