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DAMN NON-MS APPLICATIONS!!
psyjax:
Spinningwheel, when was the last time you used a Mac???
Mac's perform great when loaded up with Jaguare. Certainly fast enugh to do everything you do and more. All of the productivity apps, art apps, etc. are all released for Mac, offten before their PC counterparts, not to mention the fact that they run better overall.
Gameing on a Mac is not as bad as it used to be, sure we don't get every single half baked title that comes along, but we get all the good stuff. Beside's as Void says, spending 2000+ on a computer so you can play games is nonsense. Spend 200 on a PS2.
A Mac is EASY, STABLE, and shitloads better than any hunk of jumk M$ box. If you want a way out of M$ and don't wanna adjust to linux, I think you should give the Mac a good HARD look. I mean, give a new G4 a test drive. I guarentee you will be more than impressed, performance wise, and everything else.
A Mac is the way to go, you should be more open minded and give 'em a chance.
EDIT: BTW, the Mac is even more of a killer app. because under OSX Jaguare you can run all of the standard programs you do in windows, better and faster. And using XDarwin you can run a large variety of the open source software available to Linux. The best of both worlds!!!
How do you like that? Not to mention the fact that Apple is against Palladium and DRM. I mean ask yourself this, is your computer just a glorified game consol, or a tool for your everyday life?
If it's the later, than a Mac is for you. Problems, all of them, solved.
[ October 05, 2002: Message edited by: psyjax ]
spinningheel4242:
Ok, I have to admit, the last Mac release I have used is 9 what-ever....even so, it sucked.
Mac's can not and will not compare to Intel.....give it a rest. There is no comparison between a P4 and a Mac system...and that is where my main conplain layes. Yes, the new Mac is all that and a bag of chip.....but guess what, is doesn't even come close to comparing to a similar P4 or Athlon system. So, please spare me the comparisons.
Now, I haven't used the new Red Hat Distro....I can't tell you the benefits etc....
All I know, is that MS offers a more user-friendly interface (don't know about redhat) that I can interface with.......
Spin
voidmain:
quote:Originally posted by spinningheel4242:
Now, I haven't used the new Red Hat Distro....I can't tell you the benefits etc....
All I know, is that MS offers a more user-friendly interface (don't know about redhat) that I can interface with.......
Spin
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Well, that would be fair (should try RH8 though). Hey, if you like what you got and you're happy with the price you paid for it then that's all that counts right? I don't understand why someone who is content with their Microsoft OS would come here though. You are not the only one. There are 2 others.
Calum:
spinningheel, you do not understand, however nobody can make you understand except yourself.
if you are happy to use M$ products then be my guest. think of me during your next blue screen of death or mysterious system freeze.
My reasons for boycotting microsoft are down to their militant attempts to destroy consumer choice. if microsoft had their way you would only be ableto use their software and you would only be able to use it in ways that they have approved. This is happening.
The communities surrounding other operating systems and their related software do not care if you use those systems. I do not care if you use linux, or BSD or a Mac, do what you like. Sadly this is not what people expect. M$ have conditioned people to expect a militant approach from everybody. I often see rude people showing up on these boards (not yourself, spin) demanding that we give them umptleytum reasons to switch to linux, why should i waste my time? if somebody wants to change, they should change, if they don't then they can live with the consequences.
As for linux not being as easy, i have this to say:
Why is windows easy for you? it is because we have all grown up with it. I mean for years now microsoft windows has defined, and been allowed to define, how computing is done. Windows was based on the Mac GUI, but pretty quickly MacOS has tried to look like windows to make people more at home. KDE is an attempt to get the XWindowing system to act like M$Windows. GNOME is a copy of KDE. Many systems have bent over backwards to give you the microsoft GUI. There are exceptions, as i say MacOS was already similar to windows since windows is a copy of the Mac GUI, and RiscOS had the 'windows95 toolbar' a full SEVEN years before it appeared in windows 95.
Now, linux is a LOT more complicated than windows, and there is a lot more you can do with it. The windows GUI that linux desktops use is simply NOT good enough to showcase all of linux' features. There are two ways this is circumnavigated: firstly by making the GUI a bit more complicated, to incorporate new features. simple and obvious things like XKill, the hundreds of apps on the start bar, DrakConf being available on the desktop, and user id management that actually works are just some of the things that will immediately have windows users throwing their arms up and crying "Oh NO! Nobody told me this linux stuff was going to be so different", well that's just the tip of the iceberg. I am no command line junkie but many of the things you can do in linux are simply easier or only possible from a command line. tough shit.
basically i am saying two things here, thing one is: if you don't want to change then fine, nobody's forcing you, make up your own mind. Just accept the consequences of deciding to stick with unreliable, expensive and creatively repressive (this in response to the new copy protection thing) software. thing two: you have been weaned on windows. do not expect to learn an infinitely more capable and infinitely more expansive operating system overnight. Windows was designed to be for people who can afford a computer. unix type systems are for people that use their computers to DO stuff with.
spinningheel4242:
Ok, I have to admit, you have some great comments.
First, I, myself, hate MS. I am always looking for new apps etc to replace their MS counterparts (incredimail, mozilla etc). One major reason I still use(d) outlook is for my hotmail accounts. But, guess what, their recent changes (limiting storage, requiring log-on's ever 30 days) has made me slowly switch over to better webmail services. Can anyone tell me a great webmail service?
Second, can you tell me that a good linux distro will be 100 percent compatible with my PC hardware (2 year old Dell?). Also, would it be ok to run a dual boot machine...ie would I run into any problems or conflicts?
So, yes, I have been weaned on MS products since my inception and for that, I am infinitely biased. But I think that me just being here is a positive sign. I, myself, hate what and how MS has come to dominate the market. And, from what I hear, Linux/Mac have made huge inroads into making their products superior/easier to use. Because, if you look at the common user, most have trouble surfing the internet or changing their desktop theme. I, myself, was one of those people. But, a variety of factors have slowly started changing my mind (blue screens of death, freeze-ups, functionality limitations)
So, I guess my complaint about non-MS products has come full circle. I have many apps/games that are just not available on Linux/Mac. So, I think I will always need to keep Windoze for those. But, I think that Linux will offer a better day to day computing experience. Now, again with my question, what Linux distro would be well suited to a Noob running a dual boot machine?
Well, thanks for the responses and suggestions...
Spin
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