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« Reply #30 on: 25 November 2002, 20:39 »
Sounds like you are having fun. One question though. Who's fault is it if you click on a web page that exploits the IE vulnerability which causes a virus to be installed, or an <iframe> encoded email message that includes a virus and installs without you even clicking on anything?

You may be one of the lucky ones and have never had a virus. To me the virus thing is one of the big problems Microsoft has had from day one and has yet to effectively solve. It's bad enough that you have to install 3rd party virus software, but even still that software is only as good as it's *.dat file.

I'm glad you have been having good experiences with Linux to this point. It's seems that it is advancing more rapidly in the last year and it's sure to keep getting better.
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« Reply #31 on: 25 November 2002, 20:46 »
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One question though. Who's fault is it if you click on a web page that exploits the IE vulnerability which causes a virus to be installed, or an <iframe> encoded email message that includes a virus and installs without you even clicking on anything?
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that again, is First and foremost the USERS fault...
you MUST these days educate yourself on the computer you buy, instead of using your 2.8ghz w/512mb ram to surf your free 6 months of aol dial up..
people must get the latest AV protection, remove the vbs script file association out of windows explorer, so when 80per of virus are vb script related, windows wont even know how to execute them..
never open up attachments fromt hose you dont know..
and always scan... with above mentioned virus protection..
i know most of windows, if not ALL of them dont affect a linux box..but.. if you are uneducated bout linux, and get lucky and install it.. there is just as much a chance of you screwing somethning up, begging for help in a forum or doing an exhaustive search in help files, man pages, forums etc... as a windows user is clicking on " you won 1000 bucks" icon in a stray email..
so my point is.. even though windows is simplier, to figure out.. linux takes time and those that cant think outside the MS box , come in here with "linux sucks" posts..and by the same token, many linux zealots come in here with windoze sucks..which is fine and good, but most that say that, last experience with windows was 9x/or ME and never even seen a 2k/xp box..
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« Reply #32 on: 25 November 2002, 21:23 »
So there should be a warning label on all copies of Windows "Under no circumstances should you be connected to a network if using this product". If you get a virus it's "your" fault.

I'm sorry but having to purchase virus software is a complete load of shit. And that virus software can only protect you from viruses it knows about. To this day I have never seen a virus on any UNIX or Linux system. I know one or two have been written but they don't go anywhere.

And I have plenty of Microsoft experience from DOS 2.x to Windows 2000 Advanced Server. I have no need to get WinXP since Linux does everything I need now. I believe for the amount of money I have given Microsoft over the last 15 years I have a right to say it sucks if I think it sucks.

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« Reply #33 on: 25 November 2002, 21:52 »
i agreed with brad to a point, but then came that hoary old crap: 'you bought it, now we wash our hands of it.'

in the *NIX world, it works the other way round (and so it should) and if you pay for something, you usually get support to a degree for it. it seems to me that the cost of a product in a *NIX situation reflects the level and duration of the support for the product. with windows, they just take your money and run.

Also, there are older operating systems than DOS/WinNT that are almost totally impervious to viruses et cetera, and the only reason microsoft windows still allows viruses is to generate cashflow for certain sectors of the industry (in other words, they deliberately fail to fix their software to get your money, what a surprise).

Now anybody that advocates these practices can receive a hefty metaphorical kick in the bags from me i think!  
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« Reply #34 on: 25 November 2002, 22:36 »
hehehee, debian on a penium 60mhz, its actally usable/*anything based off of qt3.* or gtk2* probably would get done but owell, for a ti-89 programming station, its pretty cool*/
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« Reply #35 on: 25 November 2002, 22:51 »
This thread was started in MAR 2001, how much has the desktop Linux quality changed in 1.6 years?

Some? Moderately? Majorly?
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« Reply #36 on: 26 November 2002, 01:59 »
Majorly

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« Reply #37 on: 26 November 2002, 12:58 »
quote:
Originally posted by Linux User #5225982375:
Majorly



And for Xp uhm Linux User to say that is a pretty big thing. 1.6 years ago he was an annoying windows troll pissing evferyone off with random "Xp Rox" etc. Linux would have to change alot, ie: Improve alot, for a former troll like Linux User to say that. Rating u 5 Stars.