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Originally posted by beltorak0:
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read the following two articles;
let me know what you think...
-t.
good post man, shit... thanks for diggin this one up.
snippets and pissnets:
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Unless we can take back the Net from the libertarians, constitutional lawyers and rapacious corporations currently recreating the worst excesses of US political and commercial culture online, we will end up with an Internet which serves the imperial ambitions of only one country instead of the legitimate aspirations of the whole world.
would this include australian aboriginies? i'm pretty sure they dont like "crocadile dundee" or any of the discovery channel's electronic soul-stealers, but it sure fucking defends thier land by proxy. i dont want the enron-ites planting strip mines in the heart of africa either, but attacking (stupid) imperialists suggests that the big-time developers can do anything they want without any regulation... ever heard of montana? ever heard the FACT that northern america is less industrially developed than africa (afrique)? ever wonder why? the EPA of the US stops US companies from laying waste to this (awful) place, so they go over there (NOT regulated) and use, to thier own advantage, the (lacking) rules of the very (COMMY) places in which you are trying to defend freedom of development independent of the US. leave the cyber-community and join the real world if you want "the people" to benefit.
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It is time to reclaim the net from the Americans.
there have been some big fucking scandals lately. it even looks to me, with all the big ass benefits these CEO's have been getting JUST BEFORE the company collapses like a flan in a cupboard (eddy izzard fror you lib. euros) are there to benefit fall guys in a deal to fake the money necessary to fund CONSTRUCTING an actual INTERnet, where everyone is ACTUALLY ABLE TO BE WELCOME. if the euros developed an internet nobody would understand a word of it, it would be all separated by the facists, and there would be no fuckmicrosoft.... nor would m$ be so all-powerful.... come to f00in think of it... thanks to the english speakers (world wide voted number one language!), and the 'merricans, there has now developed an internet where my grandma can open an email from her german cousin and have it INSTANTLY translated into english--for the cost of winders and internet. i have seen the AOL commercials that make it look like there are several internets, and your friends are all strictly on the AOL internet (even JUNO expolits this). imagine if every time you connected this was TRUE, and only the 15 people on your proposed euro-net could talk to you.... it would be more fun to play minesweeper and doom. (hell sometimes it is more fun)
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The first is the idea that the Internet is somehow outside or above the real world and its national boundaries. If I phone someone in Nigeria and suggest a money-laundering fraud then it is obvious to all that I am breaking the law in two countries, not in 'phonespace'. Nobody has ever suggested that the content of the telephone network -all those voice calls -should be somehow privileged and treated as outside the normal world.
if you call nigeria, and propose phone-sex, no one in america gives a damn (except tipper gore) until you try to fuck a 12-year-old, then watch out for the cia, fbi, or nsa... of maybe the NFW (nuclear fucking weapons) of course we would rather catch all your takers and lock them in a dungeon til kingdom fucking come, and let you go on til we feel like killing ya (looks like suicide)
we dont give a shit... it is not your business once you cross the MORAL line. there is no law higher than common sense. no bible, no koran, no fat fucking buddah. ALL SIMPLE COMMON SENSE. the united states prosecutes mass-murders, people that fly planes into buildings --you best bet that if this happenned in the UK or france or wherever you are we would bomb these "poor people" even futher into the stone age--, facists, stupid people, and even the poor ol beat up commies, then march in and set up a friendly government and give them a billion billion US DOLLARS and a trade agreement with the peaceful world (WHY THE FUCK DO SOME EURO-FUCKS SUPPORT PALESTINIAN SUICIDE BOMBERS???) and mail drop a hundred thousand computers and a bllion tons of US beef and corn and a bunch of chinese rice and a hundered thousand metric tons of franch crouque-monsieurs in american made saran-wrap labeled "fuck you, eat developed world food or piss off"
AHHHHHH!
okay...
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Why, then, do we act as if our interactions with screen, mouse and keyboard are different? If I send an email suggesting that I am in possession of $50m and will hand it over in return for your bank details, why can't it just be that I also am breaking the law in two countries, not in some mythical 'cyberspace' with its own legal system?
are you morally straight?
so you propose that microsoft's TCPA go ahead, and maybe we can revive LENIN and put him an charge. what strides have been made elsewhere? ones that dont lock out TRULY FREE fuckers, like me (saying what i want and telling the fbi to piss off), and also preserving the feelings of the lesbian chimpanzee preservation barber-shop singers organization have NOT been taken, simply because the FOUNDING FATHERs
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Each country should decide for itself.
okay, so roll back the clock 500 years
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This would not stop the US treating its Constitution as the only true source of wisdom[....]
not the only source, but the UK sure fucking followed suit. we are sure (currntly) fucking successful, and you all would be fucked had not ACTUAL PEOPLE (not cyber people) DEFENDED YOUR GRANDPARENTS' ASSES IN WORLD WAR 2! MY GRANDFATERS BOTH KICKED THE ANUS OUT OF YOUR GRANDPARENTS POTENTIAL MURDERERS, AND ~NOW~ ===WE=== ARE THE SAID 'OPRESSORS' ?
enuff caps
go to the concentration camp, or piss off and shut rhe hell up.
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equivalent of the arrival of the black helicopters from the UN World Government Army.
there to extract you from the midst of a million rioting somalis
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-and I believe that Europe is the place for it to start.
just like nazi germany
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Europe is the birthplace of the Web, with a wealthy, technically literate population, a network infrastructure that rivals that of the US and a rich cultural and political tradition which can counter US constitutional imperialism.
diddn't ya hear? al gore invented the internet!
ever notice he diddnt get elected
fuck it, off subject, al gore did not ride hi presidental campaing on "the economy" becuse they had been lying all along (in case you had not niticed). honestly, the last demo- administration infladed "the economy" by as much t 30%, and the said "bush recession" had already ended and was rebounding a couple of months (after the election) before the innaguiration. hell, a democratic voter is (roughly, by my guestimations based in actual fact) three times more likely to be a murderer.
(based on this: murder rate for gore counties +13% vs. bush's counties = 3%. figure 1/10 murders unsolved. call it roughly 9% balancing both ways: innocent accusations, unaccused guilties, and wrongful minority accusations..) if you are a gore voter you are a liberitarian, demo, and have much better chance of being offended by me.... hey, gore voters and somewhat more likely class a felons... lick my constricted conservative anus! you are exactly what this guy and i (with a capital 'i') hate! the people's replblic of california can be invaded by the people's suppressions of china and i halfway doubt the US government would notice the VX gas.
the US has no imperialists, just a bunch of assholes trying to make frinds to "borrow" money from. NO WORKING HUNGRY HERE ASSHOLE!
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those who abused the information provided to them by individuals would be prosecuted.
and will be prosecuted
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how many Founding Fathers can stand on the head of a pin.
EXCELLENT WORDING, WONDERFUL POINT
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It cannot be allowed to succeed, and so those of us within Europe need to begin to work now to extend our culture onto the Net in all its complex glory. We need to build our borders online and offer our citizens protection within those borders, and escape from America. It cannot be allowed to succeed, and so those of us within Europe need to begin to work now to extend our culture onto the Net in all its complex glory. We need to build our borders online and offer our citizens protection within those borders, and escape from America.
HAHAHAHAHHA YOU CANNOT ESCAPE MUAHAAHAHAH!!! HA! HA! HAHAHAH! HA ! Ha hahah! ha. hahaha. SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE
ever heard the term ISOLATIONSIST?
if your citizens commit a crime, and it is immoral, FUCK IT, we will arrest them and do whatever the jury says to do
look. i see what he means... thats great... but he is *MOSTLY* wrong
americans are dirty fucking pricks sometimes.
i am an asshole
so do something about it. create an isolationst euro-net. we will just invade iraq all the same and you will offer (unneeded) help all the same.
this guy is smarter than me. if i have made a gross misjudgement here, well i guess it's my redneck loudmouth anus taking over. but so matter how much any liberitarian posing as a conservative house pet wants to talk smack, the important fact is that an INTERNATIONAL MORAL DE-FACTO RULE be upheld without question, not one that relies on a worthless minimalist rebelious prick rallying a pack of zombie lesbos that determine what is "okay."
i respect the right of this guy t5o say what he wants, but he does not respect my right to reply... he would rather bash my coutry.
tony blair fucking rules!!!!! the facist prick cunting whore of a candidate lost the french election! taqke your smirnoff ice and piss off to the fiberglass shithouse!
i very eagerly await my being shot down my intellectual superiors, interperet this shite and tell me what i missed, so i cam keep my fucking mouth shut
OH and by the way, MS releasing its (selected) source code has yet to benefit these types... show me the funny
YOU PEOPLE GASSED THE PUPPY DOG ON CNN, AND YOU KILLED JESUS!!!
[ August 22, 2002: Message edited by: sporkme / bob ]
