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« Reply #30 on: 4 August 2003, 20:30 »
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Originally posted by Fury: Freedom Fighter:
(alrhough some misbehaving sound app has been opening /dev/dsp and not closing it, really pissing me off. i think someone should make a kernel module for flushing unclosed abandoned file descriptors)


That isn't necessary. If the process isn't running anymore then the file won't be open. You shouldn't ever need to reboot unless you're upgrading the kernel.
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« Reply #31 on: 5 August 2003, 04:16 »
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Originally posted by Stryker:


if my video card (nvidia) didn't show me that damn logo for so long, i could safely say the machine boots in 4 seconds or so. when I was saying 4 seconds I was meaning from the time it begins to load windows, to the time it's done.
1.7 seconds is very possible, with fast ram and hibernation. pc2700 256mb will boot fast, if i add the other 256mb stick it takes a little longer.



Couldn't it be u're not starting from a cold state?  ;)
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« Reply #32 on: 5 August 2003, 04:23 »
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Originally posted by Stryker:

How is having a fast computer bad for it?


Why do you ask? (please read again!)   :confused:    :confused:
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« Reply #33 on: 5 August 2003, 04:36 »
Because you said
 
quote:
PS: Booting to fast is also bad for your os.

and he wants to know what the hell you're talking about.
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« Reply #34 on: 5 August 2003, 04:46 »
Because you said
 
quote:
PS: Booting to fast is also bad for your os.

and I want to know what the hell you're talking about.

Thanks flap   ;)

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« Reply #35 on: 5 August 2003, 04:49 »
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Originally posted by flap:
Because you said :
 PS: Booting to fast is also bad for your os.
and he wants to know what the hell you're talking about.


  :rolleyes:    :rolleyes:    :rolleyes:  
...so you think you need a fast system to boot fast?
keep dreaming!
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« Reply #36 on: 5 August 2003, 04:50 »
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Originally posted by insomnia:


Couldn't it be u're not starting from a cold state?   ;)  



When I do it takes about 4 seconds. otherwise it's about 2.

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« Reply #37 on: 5 August 2003, 04:54 »
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Originally posted by insomnia:

   :rolleyes:      :rolleyes:      :rolleyes:  
...so you think you need a fast system to boot fast?
keep dreaming!



Perhaps you misunderstood. I want to know why booting fast is bad for my computer.

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« Reply #38 on: 5 August 2003, 06:52 »
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Originally posted by Stryker:
Perhaps you misunderstood. I want to know why booting fast is bad for my computer.

I really don't know.
I only know it's bad for u're OS (XP).(please don't change my words...  :(  )
I will never believe u're able to boot xp from a cold state in 4 seconds. Still it is possible to do this below 10 sec. To do this u prob. first cleared your bootloader.
After this most peeps use something like bootvis. U can do this on every PC.
PROBLEMS:
*Not every proces in XP is capable for following this too fast speed: in those cases your system will most likely freeze.
*When booting, u're system has to find more than one place on your drive. If u go to fast your hardware can't follow, damaging your file structure (Boot.ini).
*Placing new hardware will get very difficult.
*XP caches system changes (even msconfig). If u boot to fast it can lose these, giving u the "unmountable_boot_volume" error (or freeze)
 
I know my english s*cks, u'll find more and better explannations here: www.annoyances.org
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« Reply #39 on: 5 August 2003, 07:04 »
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I really don't know.
I only know it's bad for u're OS (XP).(please don't change my words...   :(   )
I will never believe u're able to boot xp from a cold state in 4 seconds.


OK, but it did (I formatted since then).

 
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Still it is possible to do this below 10 sec.


I never had it take more than 10 seconds.

 
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To do this u prob. first cleared your bootloader.
After this most peeps use something like bootvis. U can do this on every PC.
PROBLEMS:



*Microsoft makes it.

 
quote:

*Not every proces in XP is capable for following this too fast speed: in those cases your system will most likely freeze.
*When booting, u're system has to find more than one place on your drive. If u go to fast your hardware can't follow, damaging your file structure (Boot.ini).
*Placing new hardware will get very difficult.
*XP caches system changes (even msconfig). If u boot to fast it can lose these, giving u the "unmountable_boot_volume" error (or freeze)



All that stuff happens eventually anyways.
I dont really use windows much, but whenever it's installed for more than a week it always starts doing crap like that. I thought it was supposed to be a few months, so that I can upgrade to the newest version of windows and, of course, not have the problems (why do people do that anyways?). I guess booting isn't the only thing i'm doing faster than normal.
I use RedHat 9 and am working on freebsd, it's a little complicated to get the gui working.

 
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I know my english s*cks, u'll find more and better explannations here:
www.annoyances.org


I'll look at that in a few.