XBox is worse then the Ford Edsel in losses...

[Kintaro]

Xbox proves costly console
Microsoft has revealed serious losses of over US$177 million ($314m) from its Xbox games console, despite its initial protestations that the device was 'selling well'.
http://pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php?taxid=243095057&id=872140464&eid=-108

[psyjax]

and this is surprising? feh.. another nail in the coffin.

[TB]

Only US$177 million??? I was under the impression that the Xcrox had incurred far greater losses for Microsoft. We can only hope that they'll keep throwing money at this sinking ship long after the rats have departed.

[lazygamer]

It sounds like Microsoft is so rich, that they can go on and on and on no matter what they do. Any way they can go bankrupt? They should be able to live off those reserves for a long time.

[Deckard]

Die Microsoft, DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[mc0282]

microsoft is trying to over come the console world, the would never happend because as long ps2 is alive won't happend.. and even the console has bug , damn it micrsoft when yah going to realize the you SUCK!!

[Sage]

The idea of the Xbox was to get into the console market, and at the start of the XBox campaign MS said they were actually expecting loses.

Once again it is a proven sign of how MS is a prick, and kills the competiton. They have the money to spend and it kills other consoles.

*crys for Sega*

[lazygamer]

The good news is that the console market is less gullible then the PC market.

First off, competent anti-MS gamers avoid the X-box because of anti-MS reasons.

Then there is those competent gamers who know that there is material reasons as to why the X-box sucks, and don't need to care about who made it.

Ok downsides, are that people can get thoughts like:

-This console ain't going down hill, it's backed by MS, such a rich company!

-Windows is great! X-box will carry on the legacy.

-Look at that technology!

So MS has disadvantges, but it also has advantges.

[preacher]

quote:Originally posted by lazygamer:
The good news is that the console market is less gullible then the PC market.

First off, competent anti-MS gamers avoid the X-box because of anti-MS reasons.

Then there is those competent gamers who know that there is material reasons as to why the X-box sucks, and don't need to care about who made it.

Ok downsides, are that people can get thoughts like:

-This console ain't going down hill, it's backed by MS, such a rich company!

-Windows is great! X-box will carry on the legacy.

-Look at that technology!

So MS has disadvantges, but it also has advantges.

But now MS has a competitor who can keep up with them. Sony is a very rich company and they will stop at nothing to defeat MS. Im personally all for it too, the playstation 2 is so far the best game system in terms of games, and value considering it has a great deal of low cost games, which is not something I can say about xbox. The competition will only benefit us gamers in that we will see better technology and better games.

[Siplus]

ok, i'm not a console gamer, nor do i like consoles (sorry, no real reason for it, just don't like the controls. all my gaming is done on pc, but anyway...), but my friends who do seem to like it a lot *cringe*. they keep trying to get me to play 'halo' on it cause i'm awesome in first person shooters, but i haven't so far...

from the hardware standpoint, xbox is the best console out. acutally, i shouldn't say console, because it isn't a console: it's a pc, but its processor is faster, graphics card (nvidia i think) is better, ect..

from the games view, i've been seeing a lot of games that are "xbox-only" and i'm losing confidence in the thought of M$ failing in the console world...

[preacher]

quote:Originally posted by Siplus:
ok, i'm not a console gamer, nor do i like consoles (sorry, no real reason for it, just don't like the controls. all my gaming is done on pc, but anyway...), but my friends who do seem to like it a lot *cringe*. they keep trying to get me to play 'halo' on it cause i'm awesome in first person shooters, but i haven't so far...

from the hardware standpoint, xbox is the best console out. acutally, i shouldn't say console, because it isn't a console: it's a pc, but its processor is faster, graphics card (nvidia i think) is better, ect..

from the games view, i've been seeing a lot of games that are "xbox-only" and i'm losing confidence in the thought of M$ failing in the console world...

Its easy to say that the xbox has the best hardware, so it must be the best, but you must remember that the ps2 was released a year before the xbox was released. This meant that MS had more time to make the machine more powerful. Besides hardware has absolutely nothing to do with how good a system is, it only matters what you do with that hardware. I still consider the ps1 the best video game console of all time because it has more good games than any other system. The ps2 has great games that are exclusive to it also, like Grand Theft Auto, Gran Turismo, Twisted Metal, Final Fantasy, and Tekken. Microsoft has a long way to go before they control the game market.

[lazygamer]

That's not even considering that raw MHZ and raw number crunching does not equal speed. For all we know, the "superior" hardware of the X-box may be less effective as a whole, then the "inferior" PS2 hardware. That, and the Wind0ze code injected into the box.

If you ported a game from the Super Nintendo to the PC, I believe that you would need a 486 to run it good. A 486 has much more powerful hardware then the SNES, yet the SNES is far more optimal with using the power it has.

This rule of thumb probably still applies with todays consoles.