Am doing a Power Point presentation about Linux.

[Bazoukas]

I am taking an intro class that i should have taken a long time ago, and they want us to make a PP presentation.
  My topic of course is about Linux Vs Windows.

  I already downloaded some cool pics and found some sites that talk about Linux security Vs Ms security.

 Got any more links guys?

 I wanna knock them dead.

[TheQuirk]

quote:Originally posted by bazoukas:
I am taking an intro class that i should have taken a long time ago, and they want us to make a PP presentation.
  My topic of course is about Linux Vs Windows.

  I already downloaded some cool pics and found some sites that talk about Linux security Vs Ms security.

 Got any more links guys?

 I wanna knock them dead.

How about making a section about how the school should switch from Power Point to an OpenOffice/Sun Office presentation program?

[Bazoukas]

You know what. I was thinking of that just now.

 And I will check now and see if PP and Kpresenter play together. If they do am gonna make my presentation on Kpresenter.

[Bazoukas]

 they dont play well together. Maybe another office suite can do that, but i only have Kpresenter on. Which it looks very damn cool from what i can tell.

[choasforages]

hey im doing the same thing, in my advanced graphics class. and really, if they switched from word to oo, it would confuse all the idiots at the school. and since i know more then the whole collective of I.T. there, it wouldn't happen

[Calum]

i reckon if they were confused, it would show how confused they really were. any fool can use openoffice that can use Microsoft or star offices...

as for powerpoint, as far as i have seen openoffice is totally compatible with it filewise.
X11 once sent me a file he had made in openoffice, and it ran fine in M$ powerpoint for macOS9 so there you go.

[Pantso]

I totally agree with Calum. M$ Office apps are still compatible with StarOffice or OpenOffice.org filewise. However, as I've read in LXF magazine once, it is very possible that the next version of M$ Office will use incompatible file extensions with any other OS :mad:  ! I really hope this won't happen since I still have to edit Word documents in StarOffice. You see, not everyone uses Linux or other *UNIX type OSes. We seem to be the exception to the rule    

PS. Hey bazoukas, knock them dead man! Skistous tous malakes. Mathe tous kai kati allo ektos apo Windoze! Good luck man!

[Bazoukas]

mas exoun priksei ta paparia pantso.

  Exo ena kathigiti pou lei oti oi Europaioi eine pio brosta sto programatismo giati aploustata de xrisimopoioun Windows.

  Mas exei priksei ta arxidia o malakotriftis o Bill Gates edo pera.

[Pantso]

Ase file mou ki edo ta idia kai xeirotera! Na skefteis oti ta 3/4 den kseroun ti tha pei Linux! Nomizoun oti einai kapoio paixnidaki! eftixos yparxoun kai Ellhnes xrhstes Linux! Koita edo:

http://www.linux.gr

kai edo:

http://www.hellug.gr

Na sou po kai ta kal nea! Balane Linux sta sxoleia.To pisteveis? Logo kostous vevaia, etsi?

Kalh sou tyxh me thn ergasia file mou! To ellhniko myalo panta yperexei!

[ September 11, 2002: Message edited by: Pantso ]

[Calum]

hey! computer people are supposed to be geeks, not greeks!

re: M$' closed file formats, hah! the M$ office format constantly runs away from people who try to open it up, and those people keep on chasing after it. This has happened before, with the seminal office utilities that used to come with windows 2 and 3. try opening up an old .doc file from windows 2 with a copy of word 2000 for instance!

Now Microsoft could have it one of two ways, if they insist on beginning a totally new line of file types:

1) they could allow users to pick "save as... old" or "save as... new" when saving. they would also put a bunch of dialogue boxes saying how you could lose a lot of functionality if you choose old, and i bet that fucking paper clip will have something to say about it too.

2) they could just allow the new file format and that's it.

Now, to discuss. With option one many users will choose "old" because many users still have pre XP versions of windows and pre XP versions of office and so on. Most company images are windows 2000 or windows 98 or even windows 95. So what would be the point in "save as... new" when the minute you have saved the document, you cannot send it to anybody and it is unreadable to any machine except the one you are currently using?

with option two, this problem is the same, however the choice will no loner be there, forcing users to save in a file format they did not ask for and do not need.

Now add to the mix the fact that Microsoft applications are no longer 'products', they are now 'services'. And you know what that means? it means that you do not pay for them once, you lease them per quarter.

So people will take one look at this new office suite and realise that it has no new functions that their old one did not have EXCEPT the fact that
a) it is no longer compatible with the "standard"
b) it now costs a shitload more if you want to use it for any length of time
c) it will be an administrative headache when it comes to auditing the licences

So my feeling is that Microsoft thinks it is invincible, but that this time it will find out it has bitten off more than it can chew. Users and admins are NOT as gullible as they perhaps were ten, fifteen years ago.

[Pantso]

quote:Originally posted by Calum:
hey! computer people are supposed to be geeks, not greeks!

   . I told bazoukas something that I think everybody should know. Here in Greece they use Linux in schools! It's not a joke! Of course they do it for value for money reasons but who cares? And guess what? Kids really love it! I think they use SuSeE Linux because of the better support for Greek.

You're correct about the close file format issue  

[badkarma]

I have no idea what it means ... but this is a beautifull word:

 

quote:
xrisimopoioun

[Pantso]

It means "they use"  

[Calum]

there's a ton of good ones! look: (translations provided)

quote:Originally posted by Pantso:
xeirotera

These are mythical beasts which will appear just before the end of the world.

quote:skefteis

These are a kind of bird, similar to vultures, that live on carrion.

quote:paixnidaki!

Not sure, but it sounds a little racist(!)

quote:eftixos yparxoun

yparxuon is a herbal cough medicine. This particular type is made by 'Eftixos', a famous greek apothecary.

quote:xrhstes

Just pantso clearing his throat.

quote:Koita

Greek for sex.

quote:sxoleia

A disease which you might contract if you indulge in a lot of Koita.

quote:pisteveis?

A traditional type of Greek beer, made from oats, yoghurt and olives. Usually it is approximately 48% alcohol.

quote:tyxh

An early '80s computer game.

quote:ergasia

The land of milk and honey in Greek mythology.

quote:panta yperexei!

A jolly old man who travels around on a camel on the 13th of December handing out presents and symbolic olive branches to all the children.

[Pantso]

LoL! No more please! i think i'll burst!