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hixy

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« on: 19 June 2003, 22:52 »
i installed linux on my pc thinking it would be a doddle to use, but i just dont have a clue. could someone please tell me how i can install linux and configue it, so that i can get on the internet. my modem is an bt voyager adsl modem.ill be very honest my pc knowledge is very basic.i just use it for games and downloading of the net thanks in advance
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« Reply #1 on: 19 June 2003, 23:32 »
i think the universal question here is: What distro do u use?
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« Reply #2 on: 20 June 2003, 01:24 »
Yes, knowing what distro would help alot.  I assume you are not using Red Hat as when I got my ADSL modem, I plugged it in and it just worked, no configuration, no reboot, no nothing.  Even easier than with Windows.  What is you network card?  You might need to turn support for it on on your Kernel, which would mean a simple Kernel recompile.  And if your distro is old and network card is new, you might be better off dling and using a newer kernel.

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« Reply #3 on: 20 June 2003, 01:50 »
are you taking the mick,i havent got a clue what your going on about,by distro do you mean what type of linux have i got then the anwser is mandrake sorry not being disrespectfull. i really dont have a clue maybe its to complicated for someone like me who no nothing about pcs  . i dont know what a kernal is or a network card
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« Reply #4 on: 20 June 2003, 02:41 »
A netword card is a piece of equipment in a PC used for connecting to networks, and ADSL.  Almost all modern day PC come with them.  Your PC should have come with some kind of sheet specifying all your hardware.  Your network card type should be listed there.  If you don't have such a sheet, the information should be available somewhere on your PC makers website.  They are also sometimes called NICs, or Network interfact cards, LAN cards, or Ethernet cards, and might be listed as such.
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« Reply #5 on: 1 August 2004, 19:54 »
I also have a BT Broadband ADSL Voyager Modem.  I'm using Linux SUSE 9.0 on a Dell Dimension 8200.  I can't get it to work either and need help to set it up.

By the way, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that network cards are anything to do with connecting to the internet.  Network cards are only when 2 or more PC's are linked on a network -in which case they share the internet connection.  The hardware for a standalone pc to connect is the ADSL modem, and the ADSL modem alone.

I can't believe you told these geeks that you were new to PC's and Linux and they told you to 'recompile the kernel' - that is without a doubt the worst advice anyone could give.  This is the problem with Linux - no offence fella's but you don't know how to communicate with people in the real world.

Anyway please can someone help me get my internet working on SUSE 9.0.  

 
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Originally posted by hixy:
i installed linux on my pc thinking it would be a doddle to use, but i just dont have a clue. could someone please tell me how i can install linux and configue it, so that i can get on the internet. my modem is an bt voyager adsl modem.ill be very honest my pc knowledge is very basic.i just use it for games and downloading of the net thanks in advance
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[ August 01, 2004: Message edited by: parkinpants ]

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« Reply #6 on: 1 August 2004, 21:31 »
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Originally posted by parkinpants:
I also have a BT Broadband ADSL Voyager Modem.  

Use the eciADSL driver,(easy)instructions + download:

http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/modems.php?lang=en&modem=23

Ps: Use the beginner tutorial:
http://eciadsl.flashtux.org/tutorial.php?lang=en

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« Reply #7 on: 2 August 2004, 00:29 »
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dont know what a kernal is or a network card


Amazon.com - Upgrading and Repairing PCs for Dummies

This will get you started on learning the basics of PC hardware, like network cards. The most basic definition of a network is a device that allows you to connect your computer to others.

A kernel is the most basic part of the operating system. Think of it as the "central nexus" from which everything is controlled.

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« Reply #8 on: 2 August 2004, 01:48 »
quote:
Originally posted by parkinpants:
I also have a BT Broadband ADSL Voyager Modem.  I'm using Linux SUSE 9.0 on a Dell Dimension 8200.  I can't get it to work either and need help to set it up.

By the way, correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think that network cards are anything to do with connecting to the internet.  Network cards are only when 2 or more PC's are linked on a network -in which case they share the internet connection.  The hardware for a standalone pc to connect is the ADSL modem, and the ADSL modem alone.

I can't believe you told these geeks that you were new to PC's and Linux and they told you to 'recompile the kernel' - that is without a doubt the worst advice anyone could give.  This is the problem with Linux - no offence fella's but you don't know how to communicate with people in the real world.

Anyway please can someone help me get my internet working on SUSE 9.0.  

 

[ August 01, 2004: Message edited by: parkinpants ]


Wrong. An ADSL/DSL/Cable modem is practically useless without a network card. The network card has a telephone look-alike jack on it(only it is sligtly larger than a telephone jack). You plug your Cable/DSL modem into that jack so that your computer can send data&packets to it and recieve data&packets from it.. Most DSL/Cable modems can be connected to the PC via USB as well but it is as worthless as a jobless drug addict. Anyone wanting to get maximum performance w/minimal CPU usage will connect the DSL/Cable modem to the network/onboard network card.

Linux is way too complicated for someone who doesn't know jack about computers. You are best off staying with Windows.

Heck, I know alot about computers andI don't care much for Linux myself. In Linux you have to spend  alot of time to accomplish what can be accomplished in Windows fast and easily. Linux is more for the geek hobbyists who have time to sit around and tinker with thier system all the time.

I have to say that Suse 9.1 isn't too bad but it still isn't for a complete computer newbie. Linux still has a long way to go.

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« Reply #9 on: 2 August 2004, 02:12 »
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Viper: Wrong. An ADSL/DSL/Cable modem is practically useless without a network card.


Wrong    you can choose to hoop up your connection thru USB at some *DSL providers (which is something I would never even consider).
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« Reply #10 on: 2 August 2004, 02:23 »
I had a USB DSL modem once...it was awful.  Got rid of it in '02.
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« Reply #11 on: 2 August 2004, 02:33 »
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Originally posted by Refalm:


Wrong         you can choose to hoop up your connection thru USB at some *DSL providers (which is something I would never even consider).


Wrong. If you read my entire post you would've seen that I mentioned USB. Using USB with a DSL/Cable modem is crap though so I consider not having a network card as making a DSL/Cable modem worthless.      

Try using USB with Road Runner...you will be lucky if you can get it to connect at all. If it does connect it takes several minutes each time it tries to transfer/recive data. It is really bad on Motorola Surfboard modems in USB(Those same surfboard modems work wonderfully on a network card).

Roadrunner themselves say "Don't connect your modem to USB with our service".

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« Reply #12 on: 2 August 2004, 02:33 »
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Originally posted by Refalm:


Wrong     you can choose to hoop up your connection thru USB at some *DSL providers (which is something I would never even consider).


He just has to use the eciADSL driver and he'll be ok.
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« Reply #13 on: 2 August 2004, 03:14 »
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Viper: Wrong. If you read my entire post you would've seen that I mentioned USB. Using USB with a DSL/Cable modem is crap though so I consider not having a network card as making a DSL/Cable modem worthless.  


Sorry  :(
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« Reply #14 on: 2 August 2004, 06:18 »
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Originally posted by Viper:


Wrong. If you read my entire post you would've seen that I mentioned USB. Using USB with a DSL/Cable modem is crap though so I consider not having a network card as making a DSL/Cable modem worthless.        



Maybe in immature systems like WinXP...
In linux the eciADSL driver performs very good(and is very easy to install).
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