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Oddzball

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« on: 7 October 2003, 23:30 »
ok first let me start off by saying this is just my opinions of linux so far, after about a few days use. Kinda a summary of mylikes and dislikes. I've been a window user all my life, ever since windows 3.1, so switching to linux was a big change for me.

Here's how the whole process went using mandrake linux.

Ok installation, this was the hardest part for me it seemed. i would say i had the whole thing crash or lock up about 5 times. First it didnt like my modem, so i took the modem out and replaced it, then it didnt like that modem either, so i decided i didnt need a modem. Then my voodoo 3 video card, well it liked that untill it finally decided to actually boot into the OS, which it would proceed to lock up, resulting in me powering down the computer, and replacing the card with a pci cheapo generic one. Now when i started up the computer and tried to get to the OS it decided i had some new hardware it needed to find, and hard drake just kept crashing and locking up. Fine, so i do selective start up and tell it not to do hard drake. So it loads, but it wont load my desktop, only the text based thing. Ok fine, i decide to reinstall again.

So i reinstall, but for some annoying reason it keeps trying to do it in vgalo with 16 colors and shit. Well i let it run its course anyway but unfortunately the installation locked up about 20 minutes in.

Ok so thats my experience with linux so far... I must say i would have figured linux to be more stable the way ppl talk about it. Most of the problems it seems are compatibility to hardware. Well thats fine with me i like a challenge, and will probably try to install it again later today, I suppose the thing that draws me to it the most is all the neat software it comes with, and the fact that its all free.

So all in all i would say i have had a bad linux experience. Bad, but not bad enough that im going to quit. I think i do like windows more still, but only because it seems to work better when installing.

Ill probably post again once i actually get linux working. If anyone has any suggestions feel free to reply.
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« Reply #1 on: 7 October 2003, 23:49 »
It will be a challenge everytime you use it.

I don't think that even Torvalds knows how to use it 100% painlessly.
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« Reply #2 on: 7 October 2003, 23:53 »
Hehe, evertime you say. Eh I'm trying to put it on my secondary computer anyway, so i aint to upset that its not working, just a little annoyed at having to reinstall it so many times.
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« Reply #3 on: 8 October 2003, 01:22 »
quote:
Originally posted by Viper:
It will be a challenge everytime you use it.

I don't think that even Torvalds knows how to use it 100% painlessly.


Don't be so silly Viper.
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« Reply #4 on: 8 October 2003, 03:09 »
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Originally posted by Oddzball:
ok first let me start off by saying this is just my opinions of linux so far, after about a few days use. Kinda a summary of mylikes and dislikes. I've been a window user all my life, ever since windows 3.1, so switching to linux was a big change for me.

Here's how the whole process went using mandrake linux.

Ok installation, this was the hardest part for me it seemed. i would say i had the whole thing crash or lock up about 5 times. First it didnt like my modem, so i took the modem out and replaced it, then it didnt like that modem either, so i decided i didnt need a modem. Then my voodoo 3 video card, well it liked that untill it finally decided to actually boot into the OS, which it would proceed to lock up, resulting in me powering down the computer, and replacing the card with a pci cheapo generic one. Now when i started up the computer and tried to get to the OS it decided i had some new hardware it needed to find, and hard drake just kept crashing and locking up. Fine, so i do selective start up and tell it not to do hard drake. So it loads, but it wont load my desktop, only the text based thing. Ok fine, i decide to reinstall again.

So i reinstall, but for some annoying reason it keeps trying to do it in vgalo with 16 colors and shit. Well i let it run its course anyway but unfortunately the installation locked up about 20 minutes in.

Ok so thats my experience with linux so far... I must say i would have figured linux to be more stable the way ppl talk about it. Most of the problems it seems are compatibility to hardware. Well thats fine with me i like a challenge, and will probably try to install it again later today, I suppose the thing that draws me to it the most is all the neat software it comes with, and the fact that its all free.

So all in all i would say i have had a bad linux experience. Bad, but not bad enough that im going to quit. I think i do like windows more still, but only because it seems to work better when installing.

Ill probably post again once i actually get linux working. If anyone has any suggestions feel free to reply.


You should do the opposite. (that is if all parameters are detected the right way)

After your installation:
*First remove all nonessential hardware(even mouse and keyboard!)
*Boot your system(if you really have a hardware problem, this time, it will work)
*Add your devices, one by one, till you find the device that's causing your problem.

PS: You must reboot for every device.
This will take time, but always works.
  ;)

[ October 07, 2003: Message edited by: insomnia ]

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« Reply #5 on: 8 October 2003, 03:48 »
good thing the most advanced OS in the world can't detect a damn video card right the first time and has to reboot for everything.

better break out the source code and start compiling!
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« Reply #6 on: 8 October 2003, 03:56 »
i've never seen a video card that didn't ask you to install its when used on windows xp. the graphics usually suck without the drivers that came with the card. If the only drivers written for your video card are for windows, i dont think you can blame linux for that. hardware is a common problem, but I fail to see how it makes linux any less of a great operating system... it's not linux's fault that hardware manufacturers dont write drivers for it.
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« Reply #7 on: 8 October 2003, 04:06 »
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Originally posted by Agent Jimmy James Smith:
good thing the most advanced OS in the world can't detect a damn video card right the first time and has to reboot for everything.

better break out the source code and start compiling!


  :D    :D    :D  
That doesn't make it less advanced...
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« Reply #8 on: 8 October 2003, 04:11 »
You didnt say what Distro, I could probably help, I need to know the distro.
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« Reply #9 on: 8 October 2003, 04:13 »
oh really?

it certainly makes it frustrating to use and makes a lot of people give up on it
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« Reply #10 on: 8 October 2003, 04:18 »
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Originally posted by Agent Jimmy James Smith:
oh really?

it certainly makes it frustrating to use and makes a lot of people give up on it


why be frustrated at the OS? be frustrated at your video card. If you had problems getting your video card to work in windows, you wouldn't get rid of windows you would get a new video card. This is true I know many people that have. But if you have problems installing something in linux you get a new operating system... I dont understand it.
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« Reply #11 on: 8 October 2003, 04:21 »
Stryker is right.  I have little experience with Linux but usually people blame something new than the older stuff that they are less familiar with.
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« Reply #12 on: 8 October 2003, 04:21 »
Jimmy James, i am sorry to inform you that Linux is not perfect, what the fuck is your point, its getting a damn bigger marketplace then apple, it might actually stop Microsoft eventually.

Apple never will because of the fact there "Perfect Os" will only run there "Perfect Hardware". And more to the point, because Linux runs on a platform with shitloads of Hardware, not all of it can be supported, and I dont think a Voodoo 3 driver will be written because of how old they are anyway, surely you can live without one? In a few years it wont matter, and Linux is supporting nearly all the new hardware.
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« Reply #13 on: 8 October 2003, 04:37 »
Hurray! People are responding. By distro do you mean the type of linux? I'm using Mandrake 9.1

Actually though I have gotten it to work with gnome, but not KDE, for some reason the mandrake distro of KDE is fucked up IMO. Everytime you try to load up the GUI it give you all this crap about not being able to find files for KDE. Really irritating.

The real problem im having now is that when i go to the little add and remove packages thing and try to add more packages it asks me to put the linux cd in, and when i do it seems to not realize it, and keeps ejecting the cd and telling me to put linux instal cd 2 in the drive. Unfortunately it is in the drive, so im unable to add new packages when i need them.

Anyone know how i can add packages (like open office for example) and get the stupid thing to recognize the cd that is in the drive?
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« Reply #14 on: 8 October 2003, 04:48 »
remember, the "brands" of Linux aren't really different "kinds". It's just what company packages it. Linux is just the kernel, and everything else is "GNU Utilities" and stuff made for that distro.

and what the fuck is my point? I'M AN ASSHOLE!! I don't need one. I'm sick of hearing people bitch about my platform, so I'm gonna bitch about everything else by blowing shit outta my ass.

OS X > Linux distros

CthulOS will soon = OS X

CthulOS > Linux distros
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