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« on: 20 August 2004, 02:05 »
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/04/08/19/1811251.shtml?tid=189&tid=121&tid=106&tid=218
And kde.org is slashdotted already.  :D

Anyways, isn't this a bit soon?  3.2 isn't that old...
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« Reply #1 on: 20 August 2004, 03:16 »
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Originally posted by WMD:
http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/04/08/19/1811251.shtml?tid=189&tid=121&tid=106&tid=218
And kde.org is slashdotted already.   :D  

Anyways, isn't this a bit soon?  3.2 isn't that old...


Damn!  I just upgraded to 3.2!  But I am glad that they are still improving
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« Reply #2 on: 20 August 2004, 03:20 »
KDE sucks, it's bloated and slow, it fucks up and locks up.

KDE eats RAM, you shouldn't need 512MB just to word process, 64MB should be more than enough.

Even Windows XP is faster than KDE.

I can load up 20 large JPG files in Flux Box and it's faster than KDE is with just an xterm box open.

I'm happy with 256MB of RAM, why should I buy another 256MB and install KDE and watch my system become more unstable and slow.
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« Reply #3 on: 20 August 2004, 03:34 »
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Originally posted by Aloone:
KDE sucks, it's bloated and slow, it fucks up and locks up.


Your opinion.  KDE is a lot faster than that of XP.  Its skinnable and has a more friendly user face.

to clear up the FUD.

http://kdemyths.urbanlizard.com/


 
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KDE eats RAM, you shouldn't need 512MB just to word process, 64MB should be more than enough.


Bull! I'm running KDE on 24mb ram!  Works fine!  XP can't even install on that machine.

 
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Even Windows XP is faster than KDE.


LOL.  

 
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I can load up 20 large JPG files in Flux Box and it's faster than KDE is with just an xterm box open.


Of course Flux Box is a lighter GUI.  Its a lot lighter than even XP!

 
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I'm happy with 256MB of RAM, why should I buy another 256MB and install KDE and watch my system become more unstable and slow.


I agree.  Why should anyone pay for more ram to run windows when KDE can even run on 24 mb's of ram with no problem!  

KDE.  stable, fast and user friendly!
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« Reply #4 on: 20 August 2004, 04:09 »
KDE certainly isn't slow, as long as you let it use that huge chunk of RAM it likes.  Usually 150MB assuming no swap and including disk cache.
You can run it on a 24/32MB machine, but it's slow and needs lots of disk churning.  I should get my Slack 9.1 drive back into my 32MB machine and upgrade it to 3.2.3 from 3.1.4, see if that machine speeds up.  (I doubt it will)
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« Reply #5 on: 20 August 2004, 04:14 »
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Originally posted by kn0wn / BOB:

Your opinion. KDE is a lot faster than that of XP. Its skinnable and has a more friendly user face.

to clear up the FUD.

http://kdemyths.urbanlizard.com/


Not FUD but as you have already stated it's my opinion.

 
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Originally posted by kn0wn / BOB:
Bull! I'm running KDE on 24mb ram! Works fine! XP can't even install on that machine.


How the fuck did you manage that?

KDE is slow for me on 256MB.

What distro you use?

And what version of KDE?

You didn't do anything clever like recompile it after removing all the bloat, did you?

 
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Originally posted by kn0wn / BOB:

LOL!


My personal experiance is differant to yours, Viper has also said that he finds XP faster than KDE: http://forum.microsuck.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=000758&p=3

 
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Originally posted by kn0wn / BOB:

Of course Flux Box is a lighter GUI. Its a lot lighter than even XP!


Flux Box is also just as easy to use because it's faster and more stable than KDE.

ICEWM is also very easy to use, and it is also lot faster than KDE.

 
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Originally posted by kn0wn / BOB:

I agree. Why should anyone pay for more ram to run windows when KDE can even run on 24 mb's of ram with no problem!

KDE. stable, fast and user friendly!


Windows XP is pretty snappy on my 256MB system, KDE is fucktardedly slow, but that's just my personal experiance.

[ August 19, 2004: Message edited by: Aloone ]

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« Reply #6 on: 20 August 2004, 04:16 »
Meh.  KDE is overrated.

I like GNOME better. (even if it is as bloated at KDE)

KDE runs sluggish on my box

  • Athlon XP 2200+
  • 512 MB RAM
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  • Geforce FX 5200
  • Gentoo Linux 1.4
and I like the GNOME UI better.

but I usually have an XFCE sesh open just for XMMS/Juk

EDIT: added distro

[ August 19, 2004: Message edited by: Sauron / B0B ]

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« Reply #7 on: 20 August 2004, 04:22 »
quote:
Originally posted by WMD:
KDE certainly isn't slow, as long as you let it use that huge chunk of RAM it likes.  Usually 150MB assuming no swap and including disk cache.
You can run it on a 24/32MB machine, but it's slow and needs lots of disk churning.  I should get my Slack 9.1 drive back into my 32MB machine and upgrade it to 3.2.3 from 3.1.4, see if that machine speeds up.  (I doubt it will)


Why don't you use Flux Box, XFE, or ICEWM?

KDE is probably OK on 512MB, but if you only have 32MB Flux Box is good.

I you find KDE easier to use, then you could just use it to run small programs and do your system administration in, and just use Flux Box to run the larger applications.

The ICEWM  or Fluxbox are easy enough for a newb like me.
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« Reply #8 on: 20 August 2004, 04:32 »
quote:
Originally posted by Sauron / B0B:
Meh.  KDE is overrated.

I agree.

 
quote:
Originally posted by Sauron / B0B:
I like GNOME better. (even if it is as bloated at KDE)

I've not used GNOME much the version I last used on Redhat 9 was faster than KDE for some things but slower for others.

 
quote:
Originally posted by Sauron / B0B:

KDE runs sluggish on my box


Is GNOME any faster for you?

 
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Originally posted by Sauron / B0B:

  • Athlon XP 2200+
  • 512 MB RAM
  • 1 GB Swap
  • Geforce FX 5200
  • Gentoo Linux 1.4
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Bloody hell, no wonder its slow for me on my 256MB 1800MHz machine.

 
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Originally posted by Sauron / B0B:
and I like the GNOME UI better.


I prefer some this in KDEs UI and other thing in GNOME's UI.

 
quote:
Originally posted by Sauron / B0B:

but I usually have an XFCE sesh open just for XMMS/Juk

EDIT: added distro



XFCE is a lot more stable and it's faster too.

[ August 19, 2004: Message edited by: Aloone ]

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« Reply #9 on: 20 August 2004, 04:36 »
yesh, XFCE brings up a desktop instantly.

If I could find a command-line only app that could play m3u playlists, and support looping, I wouldn't even need the XFCE sesh
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« Reply #10 on: 20 August 2004, 04:41 »
Do you find GNOME any faster than KDE?

[ August 19, 2004: Message edited by: Aloone ]

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« Reply #11 on: 20 August 2004, 04:42 »
I did in fact find it to run faster on my box.
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« Reply #12 on: 20 August 2004, 04:44 »
Why don't you just drop GNOME and use XFCE?
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« Reply #13 on: 20 August 2004, 04:47 »
I like Gnome's UI

I'm not a big fan of XFCE I just use it on a seperate sesh for XMMS
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« Reply #14 on: 20 August 2004, 04:49 »
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Why don't you use Flux Box, XFE, or ICEWM?

KDE is probably OK on 512MB, but if you only have 32MB Flux Box is good.

Right now I just have a tiny Zipslack running on that machine with Fluxbox.  Certainly much faster than KDE was, but still, I don't run much on it right now.

The reason I used KDE before was, honestly, because all the installed apps were in the menu, and I didn't know how to edit Flux's.  It was also nice-looking, and I was patient.  :D

On my new system with Slack 10, I have XFce set up as the default.
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